Last-night's "Fluster-cluck" on ABC with the Demmy-Crats" dog and pony show was a real eye-opener-- Biden still thinks Barracks Bag "O Bammy is de Potus, Lil Pocahontas still wants to be "Chief Thunder-Pud's Chief of Staff" but the one of the "Dirty Dozen" last eve, that scares me the mostest- Texan Beta O'Rourke- He's got "Cojones grande hechan e de laton" To advocate a "Buy_Back" On AR-15's and other weapons he neither likes no will ever understand in TEXAS-- might as well try to sell birth control pills to a Convent- or Viagra to the Vatican--

He is out-and-out scary in his espoused belief that folks who legally purchased for good money an AR-15 styled rifle and ging to step forward and accept a "10 cents on the dollar" payment from the BATFE Sturm Abetleing Gruppen -- Nein, nein, nein.

After the Slick Willy Der Draft Dodger became POTUS, he enacted a sales ban on those "Evil Black Rifles"-- later rescinded, so those following Willy's 8 years of enriching the revenues for the dry cleaning industry( and the mfrs' of roofer's knee pads as well) finally passed, we could once again legally buy and own if we CHOSE to- an AR platform based rifle.

I don't own one, nor do I need one, but if you are a brother law-abiding citizen in TX, or AK, or MI-- wherever you live in America, you may buy and own and shoot one- NQA-- Also, "Lil" Pokey or another unqualified dumb broad commented on the "high capacity magazine" issue. Bat scheise- any experienced gunner can switch magazines and maintain a base of fire until his/her ammo is exhausted, or there is a weapon malfunction.

Not "apples to apples" but case in point-yesterday, into our early Bonus goose season, then farm I hunted also is flush with pigeons- in this Sept. weather, often the geese don't move early as they do in mid-Oct- so I carried some Win.1 ounce No. 6 steel shot loads, in a separate shell bag--so I could legally switch from the Black Cloud No. 2 steel goose loads in my favorite full choke M12- worked out, as I quickly unloaded the goose loads when pigeons were circling, then later, re-filled with the Black Cloud heavy loads, and dropped a big honker from a small incoming group around 4:00 PM-- took two shots to nail him, but he was gravestone dead when he bounced onto the ground behind me.

My point it- I have been shooting and handling Model 12's for more that 60 years, hand running' so I can load and unload and reload one damn near blindfolded.

Does this numb-nutted idiot O'Rourke think the Texans I know of are gonna follow his half-baked "weapons buy-back" programme. The only think this"aze-holer" from the Lone Star State has going for him in Texas is that he speaks Spanish. So do I, but no one would vote me even dog-catcher just because of that-- RWTF

Don't forget little fudgey, another desperate climber who would outlaw and consficate.

They have gone total wacko. If they get elected, better hold on to your guns at all costs

guns, ammo and if you got money in stocks better diversify, the market is going to make some huge corrections with these anti bank/capitalism moes.

All of the Dem candidates are talking ban's & buybacks. Let's get a couple of things straight and call things the way they are.

The government never sold these guns to the buyers in the first place so they can't be the ones to buy them back. What Robert Francis is talking about is a forced government confiscation with a stipend compensation for these legally obtained & owned items. To my knowledge this has never been done in America with any commodity other than booze during prohibition & that took a constitutional amendment to get that done. In this case it would be a direct violation of the second amendment, but the progressives don't give a damned about the constitution. When Biden brought up it was un-constitutional, Harris jumped in giggling telling sleepy Joe let's just say we can anyway. She's talking about doing it by executive order if she's elected.

We as gun owners need to stop using their PC created terms like buyback and call it straight out confiscation every chance we get.

This is the scariest bunch I've ever witnessed in a presidential debate. If America elects anyone of them we're screwed beyond all recognition. The America we know & love will cease to exist.

Amen to that, Brother. Wisdom from a gun owning State where hunting and fishing and self-defense are part of daily life- (except the Hollywood ding-bats that favor Aspen and Telluride.

Do these Democrat "hopefuls" think they can steamroll a Gov't search and seizure that violates both the 2nd. and 4th Amendments and not meet with armed and capable resistance to what Herr Hitler did in Germany in 1935 and until the War ended.

The late, great Chuck Heston said it best-- "From my cold, dead hands!" He was too much of a gentleman to add the tag "Mister Foster" or whatever spin on that suits you. We are headed into "Deep Kimshee" if any one of those idiots we watched in action gets anywhere near the White House in 2020-- RWTF

Everything I hear at the dem debates sounds like a Trump Rally to me. I hope they keep it up...Geo

Keep in mind the Constitution can be violated. & be gotten away with.
Abraham Lincoln did it immensely in the 1860s & Adolpf Hitler studied him & his tactics when setting up his Nazi Regime.

While Lincoln did not do so one of Hitlers early moves was to Disarm the People", will we Never Learn.

Just spitball'n here, but maybe if a person is disloyal to their country, perhaps they should not possess arms to use against it. Just look at what we have already, didn't take more than three posts on this thread for a suggestion of armed resistance to our elected government.

Perhaps a loyalty test first and then confiscation if one is found to be disloyal?

How about that, no mention of the policy put forward at the ‘debates’, but mr. any of ‘em are better chimes in with nothing. I want to work with you on common ground issues, because of your integrity and honesty.

Craig, I used to think you were just not very skilled at saying what you mean. It's worse than that. You don't have anything to say. No wonder you struggle. Start thinking. When you have an idea, the words will start to come to you. Until then...

That’s interesting.
All I know is that if I ever buy a gon from ed I’m paying in fives and pennies.


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King,
Do you go make a sandwich when Coach’s Corner comes on?

Ummm, even if he has an idea, it still gets lost in pros. I find it more useful to just giggle at all the shade he tosses out to cover his own insecurities, and move on.

Thank you for the guidance Bill. Hey, aren’t you another one of those fellows that say any of those knuckleheads ‘debating’ last night are better than your current President?

I notice, you won’t discuss the merits of the policies they want to impose on the country, either. Do you pm nca and do a little coordinating, or do you get the same talking points? You do realize that mausers are weapons of war regardless of efforts to conceal their true purpose, don’t you?

Durn, I’m offended. Does the forum have comfort ponies and coloring books to help me cope?

Notice that there was not one mention of the economy , wages or employment. All of which were always huge debate topics. That's because non of them have, or ever did have,any plan that would actually improve either of those things like Trump has.
The question of Abortion also never came up because the reality is that in their sick minds they want what would in any sane persons mind be considered murder with late term abortion and no one would want that to get out until they actually gain power.

I have no problem understanding what Craig is saying. Maybe that's because I'm normally in agreement with him. It's a lot easier to "Mis-Understand" when you just don't accept what is being said.

Who is the "little fudgey" please. Hope that term is not similar in meaning to "A fudge-packer"! MAYBE IT MEANS SOMEONE WHO "FUDGES" when asked a question that might require him 0r her to take a stand for something. Like Biden- and Bernie S.- Colonel S. and his "chickin' in every pot-- RWTF

The very best part of the absurdist kabuki theatre (democrat debate, but, I can’t say that anymore and keep a straight face)was where Donald Trump won.

He loves winning.


Best,
Ted

I agree with Miller...I too have no trouble understanding craigd and his sarcasm directed towards the likes of Libtards like nca225 and rocky mtn bill.

What is especially amusing is the fact that only a couple years ago, many of Billy's posts were filled with spelling and grammatical errors. You expect that from nca225, but Billy is a retired ENGLISH TEACHER. I used to chide Billy about it, and apparently he finally got the grandkids to turn on his spell-checker, and he must have someone proof-read his posts too.

That takes us to another ridiculous point made by some of the anti-gun Democrats on last night's debate. They actually think all teachers need an immediate raise, and some even think teachers should be paid as much as Doctors.

Forget about the fact that we already spend more per pupil than any other country in the world. Gotta throw some more cash down the NEA rathole. And I'm sure spell-check Billy thinks he deserves more pension money.

And he does a great job of it-Teddy!. Just hope old Mitch McConnell keeps those gun seizure bills passed by the House where they belong- in da crapper. RWTF

What I think the Democrats are really thinking about is an outright ban on AR-15 type gun but no buy back. Simple turn in or we throw you in jail. How would they buy them back? How to establish a fair value for a gun which the owner might have between 500 and 1500 dollars invested in? Flat rate price, show cost invested to get reimbursed or just here is 50 bucks for your now outlawed gun. Getting ten percent or less of value in return I suspect will lead to a lot of guns being reported stolen.

What amazes me is that the left seems to think the right are full of sheep. We don't need quiet, safe places. We don't need comfort animals. We don't need hate speech, which is anything we don't say, banned. And last time I looked the right had about 300 million guns, with several trillion bullets, a clear willingness to shoot them and very little tolerance to be bullied into doing things we really think are unconstitutional.

I think bans are a smoke screen. They would take it if they could get it, but I believe the goal is to ‘compromise’ with enough rinos to give backdoor registration a foothold.

On point analysis, but, far, far, above the ability of either chris or bill to understand.

Of course, they will paint that as Craig’s fault, not their own inability to grasp a simple point. These are people who can understand the constitutional idea of a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, until they drive past an abortion clinic.

Then, it is forgotten.

Best,
Ted

Obviously, none of you guys heard what the lefty (don't even know his name) actually SAID about AR 15s. Maybe someone will put it in quotes for us.

And, he said it about sk's, and he generally mentioned weapons of war. What I believe is still important is that no law abiding gun owner, on either side of the aisle, can point to honest and factual reasons for their policy and the tactics they're using or give a factual assessment of how the results will either improve safety or quench their appetite for more.

The only reason for being wowed by what some of these characters say, is to legitimize their position. I still believe they will take an inch or a mile, both gladly, and it will happen only because, policy makers on the right will capitulate to their feelings.

I believe registration, due to taxing, fees and criminalization, will be far more significant and consequential than any firearm specific ban that may or may not happen. If the law is followed, there is no 'loophole', so what do you think needs closing?

OK, here's what Beto O'Rourke had to say:

“Hell yes, we’re going to take away your AR-15, your AK-47,”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e...s-idUSKCN1VY2FP

Message to those Libtards and FUDD's among us who continue to say that Liberal Left Democrats pose no threat to gun rights.... What this Democrat candidate is talking about is confiscating the legally purchased and Constitutionally protected private property of law abiding U.S. citizens.

And nothing would make this process easier to accomplish than a National Universal Gun Registry, i.e., Universal Background Checks.

Once you hand someone the power to take away your guns, you have handed them the power to do or take anything else from you and your children. And we have a number of grown men that regularly post here who are that stupid.

Yup, that's what I'm talking about. For all of you that didn't take in the debate, Keith gave it to you. Yup, it's confiscation. He's the first lefty to admit what the agenda is.

Right on the money, Keith. That's exactly what that idiot from El Paso said, and means to do if elected our next POTUS== and the 2nd. and 4th amendments be dammned-- He's a rabid zealot, and is potentially more dangerous than any of the other clowns that participated in the ABC lead event. He even has that mantra on T-shirts now, and if those of us who read this forum, NRA members or not, don't wake up and see that this O'Rourke clown doesn't go down in flames, we could be stuck with him-- don't think so- stuff happens, and if we fall asleep at the switch, we will pay the price for our loss of vigilance. RWTF

Whoa. Aren't you guys forgetting the alive-and-well 51 other constitutions? All politics is local, and often more effective than the federal. NRA was well established as local affiliates long before the 2008 decision. Brady took the national path and went nowhere. State constitutions sometimes offer more protection that the US Constitution. Organize. Supreme Courts can be picky on what cases they will hear, and pols run to the woods on the big ones. Organize. There's big risk to relying on federal courts and federal rights. Organize.

The big lie about gun rights is that any concession leads to inevitable confiscation. I've asked this question here before, but no one responded: What about Class III weapons? Folks own machine guns, but no one uses them for mayhem. They don't get confiscated. What is the objection to Class III designation for assault rifles? If you want to keep them, show that you're willing to put a barrier in front of loonies. Otherwise, your position is that you'd prefer to see the continued random slaughter of innocent people to asking gun owners to accept a minor inconvenience.

Th big lie is whenever you hear we only want reasonable gun control laws. We don’t want your guns. Well one came out and said it directly. Yes we want your guns. It will be just AR-15’s first. Then semi automatic pistols. Then all handguns. It will never stop. Give an inch and it will not satisfy them in the least. It will embolden them to come back again and again for more.

Whoa, I wouldn't call it protection, more whims and regs to restrict, eh?

What makes me think that anyone who would sing the praises of state and local politics is a democracy by mob rule kind of fellow, and not understanding or respectful of the Representative Republic US system so carefully crafted to protect the least among us? Yet, it is so vilified and under attack by the very same folks that need organizing against? Huh?

And, what makes you say there is no pro second organization? You aren't advocating for the appearance disunity to propagate a failure mantra, are you?

Bill, I used to think it was funny that you babble incoherently, but now I suspect there is a deeper, philosophical meaning. Awe never mind, I understand you.

So Bill, please explain what other Constitutional Right that you have preserved for yourself, because you were forced to keep it from loonies? Do you think that just because you're a loonie, and I can't stop you from loonie talk, that the nation should lose freedom of speech?

Why don't you visit one of your recreational shooting ranges on any MT weekend with decent weather, and lecture the informal target shooters that their intent is death. How about those highly competitive and popular precision shooting matches that go all summer out in MT, do you judge the appropriateness of their decisions for long range target shooting? How about the big game hunting season that's just about here, are there going to be any 'AR' style hunting rigs out there? Are you going to stop and have a pleasant tailgate chat with some dad and his boy about the small cow elk they're tickled about, or lecture him on the evils of assault weapons?

I couldn't care less about Cl III firearms discussion, they are a clearly defined category. What I am asking of you, is a '98 Mauser or an '03 Springfield weapons of war that might have a little lipstick on them, or are they in Bill's special exempt from discussion category?

If I took the position that I want random slaughter, what makes you think I can't just say it? What makes you think I've ever even hinted about it. When the thought 'big lie' pops into your head, run over to the mirror and look for a moment before your start pecking on your keyboard, eh?

Beto O'Rourke is certainly not the first Liberal Left Democrat to propose confiscation and outright bans of entire classes of firearms. California Congressman Eric Slawell recently proposed the same thing, and he even suggested that the U.S. Military would be used to round them up and deal with anyone who refused to comply. Sen. Dianne Feinstein famously told us that if she "had her way, Mr. and Mrs.America, (she) would round them all up."

craigd mentions Billy's bolt action Mausers. Some Democrats wish to ban those as well, since they fire high velocity ammunition capable of penetrating police body armor.

So rocky mtn bill's proposal is just more of his agenda driven bullshit. The Las Vegas shooter was a multi-millionaire who passed all background checks, and who could have afforded all the Class 3 full auto firearms and ammunition he desired. Had he taken the Class 3 full auto path, Billy's Liberal Left Democrats would be screaming to ban and confiscate all of those firearms as well. And don't forget the 86 people killed and hundreds injured in the recent attack in Nice, France where a Muslim terrorist drove a truck into a crowd. There are numerous other mass killings that did not involve the use of firearms. I personally think that every effort should be made to capture mass killers alive. Then they should be used as organ donors while they are still alive... without anesthesia. I think that might serve as a better deterrent to mass murder than taking away the Constitutional rights of law abiding citizens. But Libtards like Billy are against the death penalty... And they are in favor of aborting innocent unborn babies. Sick bastards....

I think that "UnIntentionally" Bill pretty well answered the question.
The problem in the 30s was not truly in the availability of "Tommy" guns & Sawed of Shotguns & such but in Prohibition, a law which was Unsupported by the masses. This brought on the NFA of 34. That got the foot in the door. That foot was stuck in Much Deeper with the 68 GCA which stopped the importation of all Mil-Surp guns then as well as many fine little pocket pistols such as the Walther PPK. Later, I forget the exact date now but thanks to the NRA & other concentrated efforts, parts of the 68 law were repealed. Somewhere in the 80s as I recall I was able to purchase a 9mm Makarov, A 9mm Largo Star Super & a 1917 S&W .45 ACP of the Brazillian lot made in 1938.
At the time I had an FFL & ordered several Mausers for others, only kept one for myself, a Nice little Mexican Small Ring, Short Action 98 style in 7 mm.

It should be quite obvious that each & every little law which is passed, pushes that door a bit wider. IF you suspect there's a thief at your door you do not protect your property by opening the door just a crack, & then Willfully opening it further in small increments, when you "KNOW" his ultimate goal is to enter your house & Rob you Blind.

Thanks, R M Bill for that most excellent post which Laid the Tactics out so clearly, even though I fully understand it was accidental. As has been pointed out on many occasions the Ultimate Goal has been well stated on numerous occasions.

As I have stated on numerous ooccasions the 2nd Amendment is NOT about hunting & target guns, it IS about defensive guns. Read it, It starts with a Well Regulated Militia. This does not even imply as I heard one reporter say on TV once that it sanctioned Gun Regulation. No, it said the Malitia was to be regulated & that meant they were to be familiar with using said guns, therefore the following "The Right of the People to Keep & Bear Arms Shall Not be Infringed".

King;
That made that Federal & was meant to Prohibit any State or City from Infringing upon that Right. All laws which were not specifically stated in the Constitution were to be left to the Individual States. The 2nd Amendment was clearly laid out in the Constitution.

Miller, how do state and local laws accommodate the 2nd where they differ i.e. stand ground, conceal carry, access public spaces etc. I understand Scalia's "limited rights" but it seems state and local law is often protected as part of the democratic process.

This is understandable Miller, but Bill won't even define what he believes an assault weapon is. He shouldn't have to be reminded, but there are many examples of lawful use of the arms that beto wants to confiscate. Certainly, Bill should be questioned when he demonizes an object with absolutely no sound reasoning that he backs with facts.

I'd hope that just because Bill throws out an absurd gun control notion, that no one thinks it is a position that deserves credibilty and negotiating a 'compromise' from there is a 'win'. As you mention, he has nothing other than he feels like being a thief.

Bill's suggestion that assault weapons be lumped in with and controlled like Class lll weapons is not as benign as it sounds. New manufacture of Class lll automatic weapons was BANNED in 1986.

Did everyone notice how fast rocky mtn bill and King disappeared when confronted by Miller and eightbore with their true agenda?

In time, more and more gun guys will hopefully begin to see that those who support Liberal left Democrat anti-gunners are stabbing us in the backs. They are not our friends. We do not need to bring Trojan Horses into our community. We are better off without them.

I didn't feel confronted by bill's and miller's opinions, keith. Nor do I believe others run away when they don't respond to my opinions.

Re earlier, our gun club discussed the new national gun lobby's agendas at its agm this weekend, and is writing a position paper on its extreme aspects.

Hate groups seek credibility by fastening to wherever they can get a grip and might have slipped in during the gun lobby's 67 per cent growth this year.

Our club won't hoist aboard hate in any form.

So tell us King... what aspects of this new gun lobby's agendas do you personally find extreme or disturbing? Considering your past positions here, I'd expect that you find things like concealed carry, and protections for self defense use of firearms unacceptable, and certainly the legalization of machine guns would go against everything the anti-gunners you support want.

And perhaps you will finally explain to us why you lied when you said that the Canadian Minister of Defense is a Muslim. He is a Sikh. Big difference.

Also, I'm still wondering why you refuse to answer my question about the continuous free advertising that your liberal pal Stevie SKB does here.

You had accused me of cheating Dave Weber when I had a link to NRA Political Victory Fund in my tagline. You later accused me of cheating Dave when I had a small picture of Ronald Reagan toasting "Us Deplorables" in my tagline. You said I was cheating Dave by doing free advertising for the NRA and the Republican National Committee.

So why won't you address my repeated question about SKB's blatant and continuous advertising of his gunsmithing and gun importing businesses? Dave has posted his feeling on people who use his forum for self-promotion and profit. You know of it and have accused me of it, even though my taglines never made a single penny for me. SKB Stevie also knows of it, and thinks he deserves special treatment.

Muslim, Sikh. whatever: they and their Isis followers (Mujahdeen, Islamic Jihadist) have 2 things in common: (1) They are NOT Christians, and (2) They firmly believe that Americans are the "Shaitan" Satan-- and must be destroyed- They come to America- and plot and plan, mutilate their women, degrade them openly- and from that basis, plan to weave their hateful idealogy into the American mainstream--

Do they have any trouble in obtaining firearms- assault rifles, handguns, whatever? Obviously not--The only thing they understand is a bullet in the head--RWTF

Fox, not all Americans, British or Europeans are Christians. Many of my friends are Muslims, old and new immigrants to Canada. They're more concerned about the state of democracy and its valued institutions than our native-born.We don't take them for granted. We're proud of them, need them and will go down as s strong trader without them.

World-wide, Americans may carry more opprobrium than Muslims generally as a consequence of building their huge empire, often at point of the rifle supporting hideous governments to serve their economic and military interests. Cost of the In-God-We-Trust empire in human suffering surpasses what Muslims have waged against America.

Including your own suffering, chiefly among the young men and women who were ordered where to go with no ifs, buts or whys, and wondered what they were doing there, as you may have and and our own did, and Canada pulled them out, as the US does from time to time. Three neighbours, including a woman tank commander, were killed in Afghanistan.

WHY??? is it OK to Bash Christianity because of "Non-Christan" acts performed by some "Claiming" to be Christians, but it is Not OK to mention that these acts of terrorism are actually in Accord with the Quran.



Islam does not even recognize Jesus The Christ as being the son of God, but just another prophet, inferior to Mohammad.

Put The Fate of your Eternal Soul where-so-ever you feel comfortable, for me, it is with the "Only Begotten Son of the Living God, namely Jesus". I shall continue to teach & promote Christinity at any & every opportunity I have.

It's good to see your true anti-U.S. sentiment slip out occasionally, as it did here King. You continue to be a lying fraud.

Most of us are having trouble when looking at a map of the globe, finding any trace of this huge United States empire built at the point of a rifle. The U.S has been instrumental in conquering plenty of dictators and murderous regimes. But the U.S. has also spent billions, if not trillions, helping these nations to rebuild and establish their own governance. Your Canada has been a partner in many of these excursions, so it must be hard for you to accept your country being complicit in all of this hideous imaginary empire building.

You also know that it is only because of the strength of our military that Muslims have been mostly kept from inflicting more harm upon America. I notice that you were careful to avoid mentioning the massive and continuing bloodshed that the "Muslim Religion of Peace" has inflicted upon their neighbors and other Muslims. Just in the last 30 days, there have been 95 Islamic attacks in 18 countries, in which 465 people were killed and 640 injured. Yet you Libtards go out of your way to hide this, while you work relentlessly to take away the 2nd Amendment Rights of law abiding U.S. citizens.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

I'd like to see you or your little brother Larry Clown produce a similar reference of current Christian (or any other religion) atrocities.

Amen to that-- Kill all the Jihadists that want to destroy Christians- whether Americans, or Canadians, like "Da King"- Mae and I are visiting his Country now-- Niagara Falls- she speaks fairly good French (read all the signs along the Falls Route that were in French) but I found out at breakfast this morning, the hostess is a French-Canadian from New Brunswick (near King's hide-away in Nova Scotia) and speaks both French and English- that New Brunswick is the only Maritime province in Canada that is considered to be by-lingual by the Gov't-- even over Quebec. Perfect weather, and when we shown the customs folks our passports, they always ask if we have any firearms or weapons--

I'd sooner try to shove a pound of butter up a wildcat's ass with a red-hot poker than get busted by Customs- not a smart move.

Lots of international "tan folks" here as tourists- Canada is lucky, besides hockey, walleyes, and fairly great beers, no"towel-heads" are gonna fly a 747 into the Skylon- not in my lifetime anyway- RWTF

That could change Foxy, if dark skinned Muslims take offense at the pictures of anti-gun Liberal Left Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau wearing brown face make-up, which recently surfaced.

https://time.com/5680759/justin-trudeau-brownface-photo/

Why do you think so many Liberals are hiding a racist past? And could you just imagine the non-stop CNN coverage and calls for impeachment if a picture of Trump attired like this surfaced?

It's only anti-US sentiment if it were not a fact.

So show us this massive U.S. Empire that was built at the point of a rifle King.

We know about your imaginary friends such as John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King. Now you see an imaginary U.S. Empire.

Maybe you and Justin could put on some black face make-up, and form an army of black-face Libtards to liberate all the nations that the U.S. conquered and enslaved to form this imaginary Empire. You could free their peoples by redistributing their income, and taking away their rights to own and shoot firearms.

What a fraud you are King. Have you no shame?

[/quote]What a fraud you are King. Have you no shame?
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Of course not.....he has proven that repeatedly!

Look it up.

"The term "American Empire" refers to the United States' cultural ideologies and foreign policy strategies. The term is most commonly used to describe the U.S.'s status since the 20th century, but it can also be applied to the United States' world standing before the rise of nationalism in the 20th century."

Americans dislike being tagged as an imperialist power. I wouldn't either.

Yes DmColonial, King is once again showing us that he despises the U.S., that he is here to undermine the U.S. (especially our 2nd Amendment), and that he has no shame... and no brains either.

It would be interesting to think what the world would be like today if the U.S. had not intervened in WWI, WWII, and a multitude of other conflicts in efforts to thwart Communism, Socialism, and Islamic extremism. Maybe you might find some reference to Jewish people in some obscure text, but certainly the Jewish people would be as extinct as dinosaurs. Perhaps the many millions of poor people of the world who have benefited from U.S. foreign aid, food, and vaccination programs would be better off dead, in King's puny mind.

American empire... what a fraud you are King. Why don't you stick to bashing your own country, starting with your anti-gun Liberal black-face racist Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. I'll bet you voted for him, and would back him again.

I know that a huge number of Americans recoil at the very idea that the US is an empire. However, the reality is that the word "empire" does not connote anything negative (or positive). If we are an empire, we are a very different form of empire, when compared to counterparts in the past.

On the other hand, the US has territory all over the place and it could be said to be a far-flung empire in the geographic sense. This includes territory under American sovereignty, but also foreign military bases and spheres of influence. The global reach of the USA today, is rivaled only by the Mongol and British Empires. That's a pretty strong argument for empire.

But, the US is nothing like the Mongol, British, Chinese, Japanese, or any other empire. Similarly, those empires were also nothing like the Roman, Persian, or Aztec Empires.

Is the United States an empire? The answer boils down to your interpretation and definition of the word "empire", as well as your take on geopolitics. There is no definite answer and it doesn’t really matter because the word means different things at different times in history.

The US contribution was welcomed by the allies in both wars. American sacrifices were enormous, their valour admirable, your word intervene close to fact: "come in as something extraneous, occur in the meantime"---Oxford English Dictionary. Isolationist in policy, the US was torpedoed into the First and bombed into the Second, its bunds and seig heils clamouring as the British Commonwealth and allies fought fascism alone. The West also benefitted immensely from the Soviet Union's sacrifices, surpassingly higher than any other country, our Western Front a comparative sideshow to the Soviet sweep from Moscow to Berlin.

+1, Ryan.

Until you consider the US fought the war on two fronts. Who else was going to do that? The Soviet Union lost more souls retreating than the US did advancing. If the war hadn’t happened, Stalin’s goulish regime would have crumbled to dust perhaps three decades sooner than it did. It would have been good to see him hang.
England paid a high price. The cost of the war effected the economy of England perhaps to this day. That said, winning a war takes a lot, but, losing takes everything.

Best,
Ted

There's quite a bit of difference between the U.S. having far-flung bases to maintain security after a war to liberate a country, and conquering territory with the motive of overall rule by a King or Emperor. Without the U.S., there would be no NATO or United Nations, because most of the members would have been conquered and under the rule of dictators like Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Mussolini, etc.

Pretty cool to see the old fraudster King Brown replying with a defense of the Soviet Union. When old Joe Stalin wasn't fighting Hitler.... He was busy killing over 20 million of his own people.

Gun control makes insignificant little things like that mass genocide so much easier. C'mon King, I know if you try real hard, you can make yourself look like an even bigger ass.

"Without the US no NATO or UN," eh?

Canada is a principal founding member of NATO and UN member since it was established, six terms on the Security Council, our prime minister Pearson president of the UN General Assembly.

Yea? Canada vetoed any resolutions this week?

“All the worlds a stage, and more are bit players then they believe”.



Best,
Ted

Not likely, Ted, while NATO and UN are scrambling to keep alliances together while US says it's going alone.

WHAT A CROCK of SHCIET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brown, go to ........ Leonard.... please!

That's right. If the U.S. had not intervened in WWI and WWII, most European countries would be provinces of Germany or other axis powers. Those countries would not have survived as independent nations to even have a chance to help form or join either NATO or the League of Nations or the United Nations. Same goes for the Asian U.N.members that would have likely been conquered and ruled by the Emperor of Japan.

In your zeal to denigrate the United States again King, you haven't considered that when it comes to imperialism and empire building, the U.S. isn't even close to some of the countries that were well on their way to ruling the world before the U.S. intervened.

But I could be wrong. Perhaps Canada would have single-handedly saved the world from the Kaiser, Hitler, Stalin, Hirohito, etc. Hell, with you leading the Canadian Air Forces in your bush plane with Martin Luther King jr. as your co-pilot, and a full magazine in your Ruger .22 pistol... Canada could probably conquer the world.

The US has been paying the UN bill for decades.

So yeah, no US......no UN.

And IMHO our American friends should close their wallet and let that corrupt body of dictators and scammers dissolve in banquruptcy.

I think this nicely sums up the current crop of Democrat candidates and their "debates".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTEvon9pbw&feature=youtu.be

Oh! Justin, Justin, Justin, you look so sexy in blackface. Now that you are the friend of all the white supremos, does that mean that the internet commies will not like you any more? Doublegunshop.com will never be the same.

Eightbore, the whole thing is too delicious.

He has been hoist upon his own petard.

No, no Eightbore. There must be some mistake. Our resident moral superior from the Great White North has told us on numerous occasions that Canada is a grand multicultural experiment. Sunny Boy simply can’t have worn blackface on at least three different occasions. It was probably Trump in a Trudeau mask or something.

https://apple.news/AHimzsy3gQn2M-52dhqV35g


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When does the step-and-fetch-it routine come out?

Right after de Amos and Andy sketch about de Stutz Bearcat--Holy mackerel dere, Kingfish!!RWTF

Apparently, I have lived a very deprived life. For 74 years, I have lived south of the Mason Dixon line, drank my way through high school and a southern college, lived a wild and crazy teenage and young adult life, violated every law I could identify. However, somehow I have avoided the blackface thing, and haven't ever seen one of my white or black friends adorned in blackface. What is with these Democrats? As we are aware, our last president is one of the most racist, bigoted, and dividing personalities ever to grace the White House. When is this going to be recognized by the press?

Don’t hold your breath.

Best,
Ted

Oh it's recognized by them, Bill, it's just twisted and spun to their liking before "reporting". They are no longer reporters, anyway ........... they're perverted editorialists.

SRH

Just wonderin', 8-bore- why would any of your black amigoes wear "black-face", and if they did, who could tell. Mae and I are in Gettysburg now, then headin' home Mon. 1 Oct. My sister and her hubby met up with us yesterday- they still live in Germantown-

Had crab chowdah and crabcakes last night at the PIKE restaurant and Tavern on the Baltimore Pike Road- One of the best things about this area, and yours, I surmise, is the great seafood-which I love. Also, the Yeunling (sic) draft beer- can't get that back in MI- just Old Overcoat Rye whiskey at times-

Obama was about a great a president as- take your pick of these 20th Century clowns: (1) Warren Harding, (2) Herbert Hoover, Tricky Dick Nixon (3) Jimmy Carter (4) Slick Willie Clinton- and the list goes on through Barracks Bag Boy O'Bammy-- but the Liberal Press and New media thinks he was/is the Messiah reincarnated- Go Figure.. RWTF

I'm not sure where you guys are coming from. As far as I can remember, blackface has been part of my life. Al Jolson and Eddy Cantor and the aural blackface of Amos and Andy, wow!

I'd keep turning our little brown bakelite radio to get their strongest voices from WOR New York. Ministrel shows were part of annual concerts in our one-room school with grades up to grade 10.

Burnt cork was part of Halloween and, according to our national newspaper of record yesterday, blackface was common at Halloween and frosh celebrations up to the new century at our universities, bastions of privilege.

What's changed in journalism? "Yellow journalism" has always been with us. About a third of newspapers in 21 large US metropolitan cities in 1900 were distinctly yellow, beginning with Journal and the World in 1896.

Partisan duelling in networks and newspapers now is common as rain. Social media is an enormous mall of opinion and influence, from sublime to ridiculous. Like Ted, I'm not holding my breath.

“And the infuriating reality is that Canada's denial of its own racism, the very same racism present in the overwhelmingly white, elite and privileged spheres where Trudeau apparently learned that blackface was acceptable, makes it impossible to change in any meaningful way.”
Janaya Khan

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Marner got paid, eh?

Agree, to the point I think Trudeau will get through this scandal with a minority government---not that he deserves it.

I will vote for him solely because he has kept his promise to the world on climate change, regulated to mitigate carbon, the world's existential challenge.

Blackface and its agencies will always be with us, a nasty part of humanity's picking on minorities and the weak, and my family has always opposed it.

The second biggest issue is state of the West's democracy. Interesting to see how Trudeau's new gun control policy goes down with the electorate.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-election-energy-idUSKCN1VR0E1

Gets to bulldoze some indigenous folks villages too from what I understand.
A twofer.


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But hey, it’s the Cinese burning that sludge oil. Canada’s hands are clean.

Currently involved in protecting indigenous rights in most-publicized environmental case in Canada---snd we're winning.

Our association has introduced a radical innovative wrinkle that major environmental issues are too important to be left to politicians.

We need a social comity of engaging political, labour, religious etc institutions to act as guarantors that politicians keep their word.

You’re a trip, King.
I’ll let keith or craigd finish you off.


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Better vote Green if you know what I mean. Sunny Boy sold you out.
(Racist too)

Just for you, King.




We’ve been here, before King. But, nobody was looking to invent a crisis about it, with which, to fleece the citizenry with:



Wow! I had no idea polar bears, the poster child for the scam, were disappearing so, so, well, not disappearing, I guess:



I think the climate is far too important to leave to those who would legislate to P.T. Barnum citizenry, of which, a majority fall on the left side of the coin.


The environmental community awaits the contents of your billfold. I’m not involved in the scam, but, you should feel free.


Best,
Ted

A measure of chauvinism on my part, for sure. Canada gave its word to act, knowing there was a price to pay to mitigate. An US majority thinks differently and is removing measures to mitigate.

Mitigate, in this case, means to revert to the Stone Age, which, to use a favorite term from the left, will be, “unsustainable”.
Report to the camps for termination, at time noted on your card. The world needs fewer citizens.
Let me know how it all works out for you in the end.

Best,
Ted

Foxy, I'm sorry I missed you on your visit to Germantown. I live in Germantown now, after my move in July of 2017. Only a four mile move, but my first in forty four years.

King’s defense of Sunny Boy’s blatant racism is laughably predictable. For leftists like King racism only matters when it’s done by someone on the right.

Canada, with its total population less than that of the State of California, is not relevant on the world stage and whatever it does with respect to “climate change” is irrelevant as well.

That's accurate. Our efforts won't make much difference. That's no reason not to join a majority of world governments who are waking up to the challenge.

As for what's laughable, the Muslim mayor of Calgary, Canada's oil capital, has a different take on Sunny Boy's alleged racism:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2...ownface-moment/

Optimist always, technology what is, and the money to be made from it, I don't think it's too late. Nations that stick together usually survive.

Reads like a thank you note for cramming that pipeline down the First Nations and greenies throats.


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/19/canadas-left-should-dump-justin-trudeau/

Nations that stick together do so because they like talking about climate change at lavish state dinners. Nations that survive, stick with the US.

Gosh darn it, King! Why didn't you say so in the first place? You mean to tell me that the mayor of a mid-size city in western Canada thinks it's ok that your PM wore blackface on at least 3 separate occasions? Far be it from me to disagree with so august a personage.

If Sunny Boy is re-elected maybe he'll put on a minstrel show in Parliament!

I don't think it was an apologia for Trudeau; more of another perspective from a guy with a brown face, arguably the coolest mayor in the country.

No problem, Bill. We weren't there in Germantown, thy drove up from there to visit us here in Gettysburg- and do some of the great guided tours- best of them, IMO- is the trip to the farm Mamie and Ike lived in, after his tour as POTUS ended in 1960.

He had a 20 gauge Beretta skeet gun, a gift (of course) on display in a glassed-in case- they also showed photos of him shooting clays with it on the skeet field they had installed--lotsa great history, and the sea-food- Mama Mia. RWTF

I won't make any comments about your "non invitation" to your sister's home. Surely she knows your meds are in order.

Thanks, Bill, appreciate that courtesy. As we have never met, barely know each other, would it not seem a bit strange to you, as it does to me anyway, for me to ask her and my brother-in-law to invite a complete stranger (to them) into the privacy of their domicile?. But, no offense taken.

Didn't you and the lovely lady Linda live in Gaithersburg? Needlenosed Drive perhaps? Seem to recall that for some PGCA papers from about 2009- when a GHE "project gun" Brad Bachelder and I developed- I wrote it up, Lori Bachelder took the photos (older shop at Michigan and Fuller Sts.- Grand Rapids) and viola. Still have that gun, but sadly, not Brad--great hunting pal, good friend-

Stay well- we are all getting older. In closing- your novel term of a "non-invitation" puts me in mind of a phrase from "Alice in Wonderland" -- the "Un-Birthday" I have to wait for the first week in Nov. to celebrate 78 years and holding-- Good Lord willing and the creeks don't rise too high-- Best wishes- Foxy

Yes indeed, there has always been "Partizan Politics" in reporting. In the early 1860s around 100 people, mostly Newspaper Editors were Jailed, without trial or facing their accusers, just Locked Up because they dared to print articles contrary to Lincoln's politics.

It Tombstone AZ there was two newspapers, One ran editorials favorable to the Earps, the other favored the "Cowboys". Problem today is we no longer get "Two-Sided" editorials or TV coverage, it's at least 95% One-Sided.

$5.00 to Dave if King can successfully hi-jack this into a hockey thread.

I must say it’s been enjoyable discussing how jacked-up and racist Canada is.
Nice change of pace.


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What’s going on in Winnipeg, c-back? Jeepers.
(Byfuglien, RFA’s...)

Foxy, the "non invitation" I was referring to was to you, not to me. I assume you are still on the "non invite" list at your sister's home.

Not the case, but whatever-- hope all goes well for you- will you be at the Southern in Oct.? If you are, give my best to Stan Hillis- makes me wish I were in Dixie with him for some "Jawja doves"-- aaaahhhh yesss-that's what I like about da South.. Great folks, superb food, fine wingshootin' we don't get here.. RWTF

King's responses here really say it all...

First, we have his response to Ted's excellent post on Climate Change. Ted made it real simple for Libtard simpletons. The photo showing zero sea level rise over the last 140 years at Sydney Harbor... the old Washington Post newspaper clipping from 1922 reporting on Global Warming... and of course the great pic relating the fact that polar bear populations have more than quadrupled in Al Gore's lifetime... all great stuff.

Yet King has no trouble dismissing the truth, and returning to the sheep-like bleating of Liberals. Anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats really have it made. They can feed their followers complete and utter bullshit, and their flock of brainless sheep accepts it without question.

We've had a fairly warm summer here, so last week, I took another look at the Historical Data on the National Weather Service website for several cities in my part of the world. For the city where I work, the hottest year on record was 1931. 2012 was the only year in the 21st century in the top ten, and it was in 6th place for hottest year. Other cities I looked at also confirmed that there is nothing either alarming or remarkable going on... except for all of the nutty Democrat Chicken Little's crying that the sky is falling.

Then we have King's reaction to the Justin Trudeau blackface scandal. We can see and hear his fake yawn and relative disinterest all the way from Nova Scotia. If it had been Trump or Bush in blackface, we'd never hear King stop crying about what horrible racists they are. This is the kind of crap that King uses to justify supporting anti-gun Democrats. What a fraud!

Gee, keith, I was anticipating more trolling from you on my voting next month for Trudeau, a climate-control leader who is also proposing ban of assault rifles and legislation for municipalities to ban handguns. Look at the science, ask Alaskans and Inuit what's going on. No climate deniers there.

il mio fiver è al sicuro.


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Lorenzo
https://youtu.be/LvG12qnnY_g

In a steak house a long time ago, I asked for a filet mignon. The waitress said, "I'm sorry, I don't speak French.

I tried to earn a fiver, lonesome, but couldn't stickhandle our Nova Scotia black Willie O'Ree who made the NHL a long time ago.

S'pose could have used Grant Fuhr though.

King, I already predicted that, come hell or high water... or racist black-face behavior... you would most certainly support the anti-gun Liberal Left candidate.

As far as reading the science, rest assured that I have studied the subject of CLIMATE CHANGE far more than you or most of the "Sky Is Falling" Libtards. There is no denying Climate Change, and there is no cause for panic. The climate has been changing for as long as the earth has had an atmosphere. And the changes due to solar cycles, volcanos, perturtbations in the earth's axis, etc. have been much more extreme than any miniscule effect caused by human activity. Here are a few links that I provided for rocky mtn bill recently:

http://www.hiltonratcliffe.com/the-myths-of-man-made-climate-change/

http://www.climatedepot.com/2010/12/08/s...un-ipcc-gore-2/

https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/400467/original/2010_Senate_Minority_Report.pdf

If we go by prehistoric CO2 levels, at our current CO2 level, the ocean sea levels should be over 100 feet higher than they are right now. But they aren't, are they? And humans didn't even exist at that time either, so who do we blame for that?

And if you can make it all the way to the end of this article (don't even try nca225), it will be seen that the correlation between CO2 levels and temperatures over the last 400,000 years being used to support the Global Warming propaganda from the Liberal Left is simply an example of cherry-picking data at its' finest:

http://www.pnas.org/content/99/7/4167



I'd also bet that Billy didn't read any of it, any more than you will. You and your kind need to conserve your energy for parroting the false propaganda that your Liberal Left puppeteers are spoon feeding to you.

Supporting current gun laws generally in Canada is the best chance to keep what we have now, keith. They're reasonable to most Canadians. Pursuing US no background checks, carry conceal, stand ground, machine guns etc will only diminish any influence with majority sentiment in 80 per cent urban Canada. I'm a rifleman of the JO'C/Carnichael age, have seen only one assault rifle in the woods or at the range, and consider them an affectation. I don't get as much pleasure from using a handgun at paper targets as I do in easily accessible wide-open wild spaces. As the Mountie sergeant told me nearly 70 years ago: use it where there are no people and you'll keep out of trouble. Illegal wisdom but worked out well. Gun control will be the least challenge of climate deniers within this century.

Have to turn Centre Bell into an indoor soccer arena.


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No ice! No hockey!

Which seems about right ethnically and democratically. Already most popular game.

Don't have to be rich to play it or exceed, not as fast as hockey, more athletic than baseball, maybe not a bad thing.

Humans emanating since Lucy from Africa, more conditioned to heat, people of colour will perform better while the pale wanes.

North American minority is projected to become majority within the next 25 years.

Let's hear climate deniers say they know better what happens in bed.

The black-face racist Justin Trudeau is not proposing "current gun laws generally in Canada" King. He is proposing total bans on semi-automatic assault STYLE firearms, and helping municipalities with bans on handguns.

If you were capable of telling the truth (like when pigs fly...) you would admit that the single BEST way for Canadians or anybody to maintain gun rights and freedoms is to simply stop supporting anti-gun Liberal Left politicians. It is the Liberal Left that has worked so hard to demonize firearms and to indoctrinate our children that guns are evil. But that simple concept isn't even in your DNA.

Your use of a handgun remains an illegal act, as you have admitted. It's no wonder you don't mind additional firearms restrictions in Canada since you don't respect Canada's current onerous restrictions on the use, transport, and possession of handguns. So you didn't get caught, and that makes it OK, eh? Your pal SKB might have a problem with you admitting to illegal behavior with firearms on a public internet forum.

Don't worry though... you can always point out Stevie's continual use of this forum for free advertising of his businesses.

And when your grandkids and other Canadian kids see the eventual complete ban on private ownership of firearms, along with ocean levels that are perhaps a few millimeters higher (or lower) than they are now.... they can thank anti-gunners like you who helped to screw them out of that pleasure by supporting anti-gun Liberal Left politicians.

Note that I, along with our pro-gun President Donald Trump and most Conservatives, have not denied climate change. The climate has always changed and it always will. We confront the Big Lie of a looming Anthropogenic Climate Change disaster. If you took the time to actually study the long term global trends, you could see that we are more likely to be heading toward a global cooling in the decades to come. And that will have a much more detrimental impact upon global food production and fossil fuel energy consumption than a degree or two Celcius of warming would have... especially on the poor.

keith, you make perfect sense if gun control is the be-all and end-all of our separate sovereignties---and it isn't. Climate control is the existential issue facing the world today; second, the state of democracy, and gun control is far down the list of our respective national priorities. As an active hunter and shooter, I've been delegated to represent the interests of our gun club with the federal government, which was successful in ending the long-gun registry. I'm assisting in our gun club's response to the proposed gun reforms. Feeling good by licking a stamp and sending off money to NRA isn't the only way to protect gun rights. Getting down in the muck and meeting collectively to protect interests produces positive change. You'd be blind not to see it in your country. A tea party turned the big one inside-out.

Now THAT is about as racist as I have ever seen!!!!

"White Man's burden--RWTF

"King, I already predicted that, come hell or high water... or racist black-face behavior... you would most certainly support the anti-gun Liberal Left candidate."

What's the world coming to....I agree with Keith!

Not that I wouldn't vote for a 'good' liberal leader...but Trudeau has proven that being a school teacher and growing up outside of the norm...does not necessarily a good leader make...imho.

No King, Climate Change is not the existential issue facing the world today. You have to be dishonest, or have a willingness to be duped, and to ignore facts to think that there is going to be some catastrophic unstoppable and dramatic change in our lifetimes, or the lifetimes of your great grandchildren. If anything, we are on the precipice of moving toward a gradual global cooling. Arctic ice is currently melting somewhat while Antarctic snow and ice pack and glaciation is increasing. The former has very little effect upon ocean levels because it has already displaced nearly all the ocean water that it can, since it is not piled on top of land for the most part. A melting ice cube will not overflow a glass, and a melting polar ice cap will not flood Miami, Florida. I am still embarrassed at the knowledge that my alma mater and East Anglia University conspired to alter climate data to fit the false narrative of the Left. But the Left did all it could to steer clear of the Climate-gate Scandal:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/colu...generation.html

The members of your gun club would have to be complete idiots to anoint someone like you to counter Justin Trudeau's latest assault on gun rights. You support him and his efforts to eliminate assault style semi-autos, and to help cities ban handguns. And don't you think it's time to stop telling the lie that you had anything at all to do with the efforts to eliminate the Canadian Long Gun Registry? Again, you supported and voted for the Liberal Left politicians who started it, and fought to keep it. You sound like an abortion Doctor who claims to be pro-life.

I totally agree that licking a stamp and sending a donation to the NRA isn't the beginning and the end of the fight to maintain gun rights. That's why, among other things, I spend so much time countering your lies and your support for anti-gunners. One of the most important things I think we all need to do is to recognize that FUDD's and Liberal Left Socialists like you are the driving force behind gun control. An arsonist can do little damage without gasoline and a way to ignite it. And anti-gunners can't do anything to infringe upon Gun Rights without anti-gunners like you who support them and vote them into office.

I know you think that things like increased Welfare benefits, higher taxes, Socialized medicine, and redistributing of income by taking more from those who work and produce is more important than maintaining our 2nd Amendment Gun Rights. So we can never agree. All I can do is illuminate the sick anti-gun agenda of people like you, and help them to understand that you are stabbing gun owners in the back, while also working to change the entire fabric of our society... for the worse.

It's your trolling, putting unsaid words in others' mouths, remnants of populism and polarization pulling your country apart, that limits conversation. I've said many times here that I never voted Liberal in my life and repeat again. My vote next month for Trudeau will be my first for the Liberal party, for stated reasons. Future generations mean more to me than assault rifles and snapping off a few at paper targets. Big deal.

Agree, identity politics is killing democracy. In our constituency, a respected parliamentarian is opposed by a popular cowboy singer. He's pretty and wears a big hat, never saw cattle until western gigs, never shown interest in public affairs. The stuff that rendered the biggest con job in US history.

I didn't put any words into your mouth King. Please show us just where I did that. You are using dishonesty as a debating tactic again.

And aren't you tired of that line about not voting for the Liberal Party candidate? I didn't say anything about the Canadian Liberal Party. You always support Liberal Left anti-gunners over pro-gun Conservatives, regardless of what they call themselves or what political party they represent.

If you really cared anything about future generations, you wouldn't be pressing for the mostly failed concept of Socialism. While it may work somewhat under ideal circumstances, the reality is that Socialism has failed miserably in most countries. There is a reason it is embraced by dictatorships. The Soviet Union, East Germany, Communist Romania, Hungary, etc., all failed. The number of people killed by those enforcing it are unsurpassed, and positively dwarf the casualties of our Civil War that you cannot forget. Venezuela is still swirling down the toilet, in spite of having vast oil reserves. China is fighting Democracy and freedom by violently suppressing its' people every time they try to attain freedom from it. Canada will follow when you acquire enough leeches that realize they can vote themselves a goodly share of other people's earnings and labors. Voluntarily giving up rights and freedoms will only accelerate the inevitable decline.

And only idiots or dishonest anti-gunners like you are saying that anti-gunners will stop seeking more gun control once they've succeeded in banning assault style rifles. I notice you don't wish to mention the coming Justin Trudeau handgun ban. Plain to see just who is trolling here.

Depends. Racist is hard to pin on me. Google: "a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another." I was told by a white barber in a Chicago shop, "Basketball is a [censored]'s game." Was he discriminatory other than stating a fact of black prowess in the game? It's instructional to google diversity, blacks and hispanics in professional sports, MLB, NBA, NFL and world soccer, and favour notions of white superiority. There is some excuse for it. A black school teacher in deepest settlement in Guiana told me, "Why would whites think anything else after 500 years of indoctrination that they're superior." We're all superior in different ways, as in our ignorance.

We agree then on the "inevitable decline" from the way populism, polarization, going-it-alone is taking us.

If capitalism is benign compared to socialism, the one per cent owns and runs half the world, and most countries including the US are socialist one way or another.

King has them playing soccer at Bell Center and not a peep from canvasback.

Canada is doomed.


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No one getting more than me, King. (humble brag)
It’s an economic thing, not ethnic.
https://youtu.be/3j3okb3kuts

We agree on virtually nothing King... except the fact that gun owners and NRA members should do more than simply sending donations to the NRA... even though that is very important. But we should also work hard to keep Trojan Horses and frauds like you from stabbing us in the backs. You support anti-gunners King. Without you and your kind, they would be powerless to infringe upon our rights. You are directly responsible for gun control. You say that other things these Liberal Left anti-gunners do are more important, yet you do absolutely nothing to attempt to dissuade them from their quest to take away our gun rights.

I also don't know why it bothers you so much that the extremely wealthy own and run "half the world". If they didn't own it, I sure wouldn't wish to see it in the hands of Socialists and dictators. Attempting to equate collection of taxes to collectively establish certain infrastructure like highways, dams, effective education, National defense, etc. with your stupid notions of Socialist wealth redistribution and a new form of slavery, by stealing the labors and productive efforts of those who work is both absurd and dishonest.

And once again... you run from the points I made about gun control, Canadian handgun bans, and how Libtards like you are stabbing us in the backs by supporting anti-gunners. You also failed to show us just where I put words in your mouth. You are great at making false and dishonest statements... but very bad at backing them up with facts.

Some things never change. Once a fraud, always a fraud.

Having fun and hunting. No time for this crap now.

Right on, James. We've all seen this picture show. I'm as tired of it as you are. Hope they're tolling good on the Delta.

Maybe take King with you next time.

Leafs 3 Team M 0 yesterday. Yeah it’s only preseason but still enjoyable.


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Haven’t played much hockey there since ‘93. May as well play soccer.

King, are you talking about the same old picture show where you sing the same old song claiming that you can call yourself a supporter of gun rights when you support and vote for the anti-gun Liberal Left politicians like Justin Trudeau, who fight relentlessly to enact new anti-gun legislation?

Or were you thinking of the scene where you tell that B.S, story claiming that you actually had a hand in rolling back the Canadian Long Gun Registry? It seems odd that you would do that, when you voted for the Liberal Left politicians who enacted it, funded it, and fought so hard to keep it.

I'll bet it does get tiring shoveling so much pure horse shit all the time. And searching for that post where you claimed I put words in your mouth must be tiring too!

Say King, why don't you give us the name and address of the President of your Gun Club so we could ask him about your great contributions to fighting to eliminate the Canadian Long Gun Registry? He'd probably also be interested in seeing a bunch of QUOTES of the anti-NRA and anti-2nd Amendment posts you have made here.

I bet we'll get that name about the same time as you give us the names of the Roman Catholic clerics at St Francis Xavier University who baptized your father as an adult convert, knowing he did not believe in the Resurrection, and agreeing with him and saying, "We don't believe in it either!".

keith, it's difficult for you to understand that popular-majority Americans voting Democrat may be voting for issues more important to them than gun control i.e. currently ridding the country of its president. But that's okay, you're of a minority, and Americans always get it right over time. Keep cool.

King, I understand your need to avoid most of the points I made, and to not even go anywhere near offering us the name of the President of your gun club. You certainly don't want everyone to know how much you lie to us about being part of the effort to eliminate the Canadian Long Gun Registry.

Hint: We already know. You voted for the anti-gunners who started it, and funded it, and fought to keep it. Your idea of helping was stabbing Canadian gun owners in the back. You did that by supporting anti-gunners like the black-face racist Justin Trudeau.

The members of your gun club would have to be complete idiots to appoint someone like you to represent the interests of gun owners. That would be like hiring a known pedophile to babysit children.

I have also repeatedly stated that I know that the majority of Democrats are not gun owners or shooters. I certainly realize that most Democrats place a higher priority on open borders, unfettered illegal immigration, job-killing higher corporate taxes and regulations, and of course, income redistribution in the form of Welfare, Food Stamps, Housing assistance, and other taxpayer funded freebies. I'm not talking about them at all when I point out Liberal Left so-called gun guys who support anti-gun politicians.

Are you really too stupid to grasp this... or are you simply being dishonest about it? I do hope that you live just long enough to see Americans once again reject your Socialism and your anti-2nd Amendment attitudes by re-electing our pro-gun President Donald Trump. I really enjoyed the grief and sorrow you expressed when Trump won the first time.

keith, the "we" you talk of doesn't exist. Get a grip. Any member, anyone who posts pleasurable anticipation of my death, as above and previously, can't be---is not---taken seriously.

King: serious question. You have pointed out many times that Pres. Trump did not receive a majority of the popular vote and apparently take issue with the Electoral College. (For the life of me I can’t understand why. I could not care less how Canada chooses the PM. Have a bake off or a spelling bee. Makes no difference to me). But you do not directly elect the PM under the present system and is totally possible that the PM is chosen without having received the support of a majority of the electorate. Now, I’m no expert in Canadian politics but I think I’ve got that right. PMs can be chosen by a plurality of the MPs in some cases. Or consider an election with only 5 ridings of 100 voters each. Liberal MPs win 3 ridings 51/49. Conservative MPs win 2 ridings 99/1. The Liberals would choose the PM, although Conservatives received many more votes. Your antipathy to the Elwctoral College seems hypocritical. What am I missing?

Au contraire King, there is no small number of people here who have called you out as a serial prevaricator. Even the many who defended you in the past as a harmless old man have largely abandoned you or finally realized that you have serious issues when it comes to telling the truth. And since you've already exceeded the average male life expectancy for a Canadian, you should be grateful at my hope that you live long enough to see our pro-gun President Donald Trump win a second term. I do admit that your obvious sorrow and heavy heart over Trump winning in 2016 made me quite happy. How else should I feel when someone who works so hard to undermine my Constitutional 2nd Amendment Rights has a major setback, such as when Hillary Clinton lost?

So how about telling us the name and address of your gun club and its' president or officers? Don't you want us to know how much you did (or didn't do) to get rid of the Canadian Long Gun Registry? It would seem odd that some other Canadians posted about their involvement in the fight to end the Registry several times during that struggle. Yet you never said a word about it until after I repeatedly chided you about doing nothing to help. Then you came up with this new cock-and-bull story. If a bloviator like you had been involved in the smallest way... we would have never heard the end of your heroics. I'm not the only one here to realize that fact either.

You're not missing anything. Responding to keith's notion that anything other than a Republican vote is a stab in the country's back, I've left the impression with you that I believe there's something wrong with the Electoral College. I have no issue with the College; I agree with why it's there.

The point I've tried to make is that keith's notion, according to the popular vote, would make more than half the US electorate unpatriotic, anti-gun, anti-constitution, cowardly citizens because they voted Democrat. Voters for either party, according to polls, favour priorities other than gun control.

Okay, let's break this down.

When you spell 'favor' by adding in an extra 'u', does spell disaster when you folks pick your PM via spelling bee? Oh and, just because you like repeat that there're other prioroties besides gun control, how does that excuse the blatant unpatriotic act of the dem voter?

Again you feel the need to resort to deception to make your point King. It was only several hours ago that I explained to you that I am fully cognizant that the majority of Democrat voters are not gun owners, and do not have the same concern for preserving the 2nd Amendment as most gun owners. I even mentioned their other priorities such as open borders, unfettered illegal immigration, higher corporate taxes that inevitably drive companies and jobs overseas, and of course, Welfare, Food Stamps, Housing assistance, and other means of voting themselves freebies that come at the expense and labors of other citizens.

A couple days ago, you falsely accused me of putting words in yours and others mouths... yet here you are doing exactly that. No need to ask for proof. I just gave it to you. So why must you always lie to make your point? Is your argument that weak, or are you just devoid of morals and ethics?

Those who vote and work to undermine or infringe upon the Constitution cannot be said to support it though. However, many citizens have been indoctrinated by Liberal Left anti-gun propaganda, and aren't aware of the harm they are doing by following and supporting any dismantling of the Constitution. And like it or not, gun owners who support anti-gunners are stabbing other gun owners in the back. You are the poster boy for that undermining of our gun rights, and back stabbing of those you refer to as being part of your fraternity.

I think Sunny Boy would prefer a bake off, Craig. I could totally see him in a toque blanche and an apron whipping up a batch of Nanaimo Bars.

Forget this thread.
There’s a line brawl brewing in the Darne thread.


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Detroit vs Everybody

pretty much a melt down on every thread.

Buongiorno, Teodoro!

Have fun at whork today!

It’s kind of a coffevee, and 3 newspaper day today. Smoke about an ounce too.
Relax! I’m talking tobacco!


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Hockey irrelevant...that’s like saying Canada is irrelevant. Blasphemy!

keith, a person who maligns his country as harshly as you--- claiming more than half of the electorate is a back-stabbing fifth column--- isn't taken seriously. You're in a lonely orbit of your own. Broaden your interests. You're not beyond rehabilitation. Bless you.

To anger a Conservative/Republican, lie to him.
To anger a Liberal/Democrat, tell him the truth.
Poor Brown King! Keith, you disturb him so.......

I'm partially to blame for keith's condition. I shouldn't act like I'm patronizing him. He's purest kind of narcissist. ("No one can ignore me.") He knows why I don't take him seriously. Have to admit, it's a lot of fun. If you're not having fun you're not living. I have guilt about playing him along---but get over it quickly.

You don't play me King... you tell lies. Now why don't you show I where I ever said that over half the country is a back-stabbing fifth column? It isn't some game you play, putting words in my mouth. You do the same to a lot of people who think they have a chance to fairly debate a liar. I don't attempt to debate you. I just have this enjoyable little hobby of catching you in lies and watching you run like a coward from your own words.

And why won't you tell us the name of your gun club and perhaps a few officers who could verify your unbelievable story about representing them in the effort to eliminate the Canadian Long Gun Registry?

Does that story make sense, when you also supported and voted for the politicians who enacted the Registry, funded it, and fought to keep it? And I'm sure your fellow gun club members... if you actually belong to one... would enjoy seeing QUOTES of your anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric that you use to try to undermine gun owners in the U.S.

Don't you want to share your legacy with gun owners in your country... or do they already know that you are like a cancer in the ranks of gun owners?

Finally, why do you find it necessary to resort to deception in order to attempt to score points? Watching California Democrat Congressman Adam Schiff recite a totally false narrative today, and then attempt to call it a parody, reminded me of you.... pathetic. I do remember when you claimed that you were ignoring me, but got caught so many times responding to me that you looked like not only a liar, but a fool as well. Do you really think DmColonial believes anything you say? I know you believe your lies, but you are sick. Tell your Topeka pen pal Gladys I said hi.

What was that thread a while back that said you were a hacker, keith? Or was it what you professed as a capability? It shouldn't be difficult to find the information you've asked of me. I'd provide it myself if your trolling and thrashing about didn't exhibit you're a tad short of responsibility.

I never said that I was a hacker King. And you won't tell us the name of your gun club or any of the officers because you know that you had absolutely nothing to do with eliminating the Canadian Long Gun Registry. As I said earlier, a couple other Canadians posted about fighting it, but you never said a word until after it was shut down, and after I chided you about doing nothing to help make it go away.

If you really did have any input into the elimination of the Registry, we'd never hear the end of it. All you did was to support and vote for the anti-gun politicians who imposed it upon Canadian gun owners. You've lived your life as a fraud and a liar, so I don't expect we'll see you change now. But it is fun to watch you flail.

You are welcome Billie.
Steve

Looks like he's an admitted hacker to me.

Remember what the great US statesman Henry L. Stimson said about reading others' mail, keith?

Yup, pretty much a melt down on every thread.

Every time. Dave seems to love it.

Nothing worse than King’s hockey threads.
Babbling on and on about Crosby and Marchand. Am I right, Teodoro?


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Annalisa
https://youtu.be/bmv5vu-XUiw

Sorry Stevie, I don't see any admission to hacking anything there. But I do see you still are obsessed with defending your queer boyfriend Shortshells. Did you use Bleach-bit to clean your hard drive to cover your relationship with him and BrentD? Did you do it in time? Don't worry, everyone here already knows you're the Official State Fruit of Colorado.

If you're really concerned about people admitting to crimes, you could always turn King in to the RCMP for his admitted illegal transport and use of a pistol. Then you should probably look into how he managed to sell a full-auto Sten sub-machine gun in the United States after they became illegal in Canada. Then you could call your Federal Agent friends that you permitted to illegally photograph your FFL Bound Ledger Books, and let them know about your pal who is dealing in firearms without an FFL:

One other thing Stevie... do you think King actually did anything to help get rid of the Canadian Long Gun Registry? And do you think King's support and votes for the anti-gunners who imposed the Long Gun Registry helped Canadian gun owners?

Never mind... scratch that... no sense asking someone like you when you LIED when you said that guns were not registered in New Zealand at the time of the Christchurch shooting:



Oops.. you told us that you only said that once, and then quickly deleted it. Turns out that was a BIG FAT LIE too.

And then you used data from the known anti-gunner Philip Alpers and Gunpolicy.org to try to prove that false assertion, which you obviously posted more than once. So why would I expect you to refute any B.S. the anti-gun Troll King told us about the Long Gun Registry?

So are you paying Dave $12.00 for every sale or service you sell as a result of your continuous advertising of your businesses on his forum? King complained that I was advertising for the NRA when I had a link to NRA Political Victory Fund in my tagline. But of course, the last thing King would want is to see the NRA help pro-gun politicians get elected.

Yes, I do-- that lead to Hoover's big mistake in dismantling a American spy and code cracking operation that developed in NYC in the WW1 years, when the clever krauts developed a spy network in NYC- concentrating on the busy harbors and critical shipments of munitions to England-- from the USA- a "neutral country" at first.

Wars may be started by "gentlemen" but they are won by subterfuge, sabotage and spy networks- OSS in WW2- etc. RWTF

Whimpering. Take it like a man, keith. You're a hacker. No one gives a damn here for what I think, one way or another. As it should be.

https://youtu.be/6B224XDJw6g


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Jeepers. Somebody start a soccer thread.

So King, we get to see more of the name calling that you claim you never do. We can add that to racist, hater, greedy, selfish, misogynist,... oh crap, I almost forgot misanthrope... and also right here in this thread, narcissist.

Thanks for once again confirming that you are a serial liar who needs to use deception to get through life. Of course, it doesn't hurt to have a Free Advertising Fairy Gunsmith friend who swoops in to try to change the topic. Speaking of which, I really never thought that you'd provide the name of your gun club or any of the principles who could confirm or deny your claim that you were involved in the efforts of Canadian gun owners to roll back the Long Gun Registry. I knew that was just another lie in a sad life, outlined by a fictional resume that would be pretty sparse if it wasn't for your pathetic need to make up shit and create a false persona here.

Besides, you supported and voted for the anti-gunners who enacted the Long Gun Registry, and you told us that next week you intend to go to the polls and vote again for the anti-gun black-face racist Justin Trudeau. And that's going to be just another stab in the back to your fellow Canadian gun owners who enjoy their semi-autos and their handguns. Nice work anti-gun King!

Keith, No one here cares to listen to you repeat yourself. King is out of your league. Go off somewhere and look for a life. You contribute nothing here except to pollute the site with the same crap. Go read the National Enquirer. It's on your level.

Still stuck on telling folks to go read the National Enquirer, huh Billy? That seems to be about the extreme maximum of your intellect.

No surprise to see another Liberal Left Democrat like you rising up to defend the anti-gun Socialist Troll King. You both feel the need to lie to us to advance your agenda. Speaking of polluting this site with the same crap, don't you have any of your usual criticism for our pro-2nd Amendment President Donald Trump or our NRA?

And how about semi-automatics Billy? Do you still want to see them classified as Class 3 firearms, which would end production of them? You never were brave enough to answer my question about your bolt action Mauser rifles either Billy. Anti-gun Democrats want to ban those as well, because they fire high velocity ammo capable of penetrating police body armor. Yet you are so f***ing stupid that you actually think Liberal left Democrats are no threat to our gun rights... and yours.

How's your blood pressure now Billy? I wouldn't want you to pop an aneurysm... unless we could see it on YouTube.

Keith, OK, I'll say this about your president: He's a bigger AH than you, and he's coming unwound. His impeachment is just a matter of time. President Pence is a scary prospect. but he won't have long to go 'til the 2020 election. In the meantime worship your president while you can.

Ah, so who's gonna impeach him and when's this all gonna happen?

Hey, let's lighten the mood. Heard the funniest thing this morning on natenquiresque tv. A big corporate wallst. ceo, who happened to be in baraks exclusive membership club, I mean admin. was scolding any dem who might vote for lizbeth. He sez she'd wreck wall street and ruin everything that your real President has created. Now who's worshipping who?

Don't you rush President Pence along, he'll take his turn in about six years. He just might scare you and your buddies back to a little prayer and faith, now that we know how hope-n-change has worked out, eh?

Yeah craigd, poor Billy is so brainless that he doesn't realize that it would take more than the anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats in the House to remove our pro-gun President Donald Trump from office. But Billy also was certain that Mueller would indict him, and those of us with brains knew that wasn't going anywhere either.

Hey craigd, what's the difference between poor brainless Billy and that skinny pencil-neck California Congressman Adam Schiff, who lied through his teeth with a false narrative that did not remotely match what Trump said to the Ukraine President?

Answer: Pencil-neck Adam Schiff looks a lot tougher than brainless Billy. Other than that... there is very little difference.

I would like to ask brainless Billy if he thinks that King's bullshit story about representing his gun club to roll back the Canadian Long Gun Registry has any truth... But he has the same issues with supporting anti-gunners as the Fairy Gunsmith. I'll bet he'd vote for the black-face racist Justin Trudeau if he could. I wonder why he's afraid to answer my question about his beloved Liberal Left Democrats who would like to ban high powered rifles like his Mauser. Probably something to do with being brainless.

I’m guessing that condition drastically reduces somebody’s risk of suffering an aneurysm.

Diet and exercise (like hockey and golf) are good for lowering high blood pressure.


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Alcohol and tobacco work too.

Actually lonesome, you can be as brainless as Billy and still have an aneurysm:

An aortic aneurysm is an abnormal bulge that occurs in the wall of the major blood vessel (aorta) that carries blood from your heart to your body. Aortic aneurysms can occur anywhere in your aorta and may be tube-shaped (fusiform) or round (saccular).Mar 9, 2018

Source: The National Enquirer... They do all my thinking, so blame them... not me!

I'm not sure if Billy would be capable of golf because you have to be able to count all the way to double digits. And he'd probably see all the herbicides and pesticides they use on golf courses and blame Trump for ruining the environment. I think he may be as intelligent as a hockey puck, so that's a possibility.

Craig, Congressional Democrats will impeach, of course. PS: Your "accent" is about as appealing as Ed's. It does not cover for your lack of ideas.

There’s a decent joke there for anyone that can channel Churchill.


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It was one of the best comebacks in history.

Sure 'they' will, right after they threaten and intimidate the holdouts, eh? Oh never mind, big p said it's official so you marched on the orders. Wait a minute, are you saying my accent reads like a tard?

Yes, a tard, whatever that is.

It’ll be interesting to see how far that goes in the senate.

Come to think of it, no, it won’t. It’ll die right there.


Best,
Ted

I concurr- The Demmy-Krats would vote to impeach Da Trumpmeister if he broke wind while giving the State of the Union Address. His conversations to heads of Foreign Countries should be as private as those he has with his attorney, Rudy G.

I don't give a big rat's ass if he used his POTUS power to nail Slippery Joe Biden to the barn door-- Biden and the rest of his ilk are all opposed to the sacred 2nd. Amendment that we trust to maintain our right to own and bear firearms.

Trump won't have to worry too much about O'Rourke, IMO- that crazy SOB is the best recruiter for the new NRA members we need-- he will implode with his foul language and lack of proper social niceties. RWTF

rocky mtn bill and King and anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats are not the least bit concerned that Anti-gun Joe Biden's son mysteriously got a sweet job as a Board Member of a Ukrainian energy company.

It gets better... He had zero experience in that business, and his salary was a cool $50,000.00 a MONTH!

Just imagine how they'd be howling and crying if one of Trump's kids landed a job like that. But corrupt Democrats think it should be an impeachable offense to even look into such obvious influence buying like this, the Uranium One deal, or massive speaking fees and "donations" to the Clinton Foundation.