is one that gets right to the point.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1311278369296719872

I see that Joe was wearing a wire.

Those darn cameras can be so embarrassing.

Didn't see that, but I must admit I wasn't looking. Hard to take your eyes away from the sippy cup and bib the idiot drumph was wearing.

Surely the evangelical Trumpists were mightily reinforced last night. If God chose Trump, He made a mysterious move.

He does that from time to time, Bill.

SRH

Or the devil got him in power and christians are too dumb to figure it out because they are gullible with lies and fairytales like thinking there is an all mighty deity after all...

See the irony?

Trump is a jackass, but Biden is just Kamala's meat puppet. If she gets elected, be afraid. Be very afraid.

The whole debate was bizarre and lacked any semblance of civility. But how abhorrent to call the President of the United States a ‘clown’ and to tell a president to ‘shut up’. Biden should at least have some respect for the office, but alas. Biden’s actions were disgraceful.

Respect for Trump has nothing to do with respect for the office. He has debased it almost beyond salvage.

To call him a clown is an insult to clowns everywhere. Clowns are funny. T Rump is a national disgrace and tragedy. David, you display the same grace and civilty as your cult leader.

Yabut Bill, there’s no such thing as a 90 minute infomercial for dementia jo. Didn’t your President extract about five or six sound bite admissions through the fog of long gone synapses, that the dem platform is a lie? I like the forceful and angry jo, almost looks like there is a lone little mouse, churning away on his wheel, trying to put three words together. You should be proud, but is prez harris?

I suppose, you probably know a bunch of clowns.

Yeah, I know some clowns here. They think T Rump is a leader. He tells them night is day,and they belive him. Joe did a good job under the circumstances. It's hard to talk over a raving lunatic. Cris Wallace should have been given a Taser.

Well gosh thrifty, when you kind of look at the facts and video from the debate, when compared to the drumph campaign months long drumroll about dementia, its just not there for the swing voter to see.

But then again your dear dumbass leader doesn't even know who supports him. Frankly I was surprised that senile idiot drumph knew where he was.

https://www.newsweek.com/after-trump-cla...support-1535178


Kind of sad how even the conservative talking heads seem to know he dug himself deeper into an election losing hole.

https://www.newsweek.com/after-trump-cla...support-1535178

Well well, we found out Pres. Trump is a petulant jerk in contrast to cranky old, (too old) nothing new here Joe. That's news? Dem's lost me when they anointed Joe Biden midway through the primary process. At least two other Dem candidates piqued my interest. What a choice, These two?

Beginning to think that the conspiracy crowd may be on to this. Biden equals trojan horse.

Chief

Just a 3 year difference between the two Chief.

Methinks drumph shows his age just as much if not more than Biden.

Methinks not. Neither suits the position.

https://medium.com/@whitfieldlarrabee/like-father-like-son-the-troubling-problem-of-dementia-trumps-white-house-1ed5b7f232d2


Professionals in the field disagree with you.

I hope all you Biden-supporting lefties like higher taxes, politically correct racial indoctrination, Greenie superstition, and gun control.

So? We can throw this crap around for hours. Bottom line is neither of these candidates, incumbent or not, are great, inspirational, dynamic or even interesting. Once again you and I and most others will vote an ideology not an idea. In the long run that's bad for us all.

Chief

Voting for democrats leads directly, and inevitably, to a European-style gun-regulated regime: no handguns, expensive hard-to-get special permits allowing no-pump, non-semi-auto shotguns and a few models of bolt-action action rifle that are kept at gun clubs or in very expensive, regularly-inspected gun safes, in your home.

And no lead bullets or lead shot, while we wait for complete bans on hunting and angling (Cruel Sports).

What I like David, is an American President who doesn't catch for Putin. You know, being a patriot and all, I'll look past policy areas where I disagree with Biden and the Dems, and rest assured that my president isn't a puppet for the Russian regime.

Are you a patriot or just a selfish A-hole who doesn't give back nor support your country?

You are ill-informed. The whole Russian-collusion affair was a baseless treasonous partisan fabrication.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/25/get...n-was-targeted/

Sort of a low bar Chief, how about comparing political track record and results?

Wow, have the doc balance your transitional meds. You're probably still on biden care, get yourself something that covers preexisting conditions.

Will you join the Trumps, and call for the first lady to get a little recognition for her grace during her second term? Why would the dem first lady hopeful and the veep hopeful both think they can sleep their way to the middle? The new America?

Well, I guess if I say apples and then you spin it into oranges and then call me Ill-informed; you are right at home here with the cadre David!

Its par for the course for drumph voters to deny this cause deep down inside, you guys know you voted for a traitor and thereby committed a little bit of treason yourself. I know that’s a tough thing to square away with the drumph voter’s facade that they are the "real Americans."

https://themoscowproject.org/category/breaking-down-the-mueller-report/

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/18/903512647...nfo-with-russia

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/21...-in-2016-198171

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/...betrays-america

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-house-democrats

and then there is this one…

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/16/trump-russia-putin-summit-722418

Sorry but in a few months Drumph isn’t going to have his personal law firm, the DOJ under Barr to protect him from his crimes against America.

But I bet you still are going to support him, you “real American” you…

BTW your source is a discredited right wing rag, with known biase and inaccurate reporting. Are you sure you want to hang your hat on that?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federalist/

Craigd,

I've said my peace. Wrangling to polish either turd is a waste of time and effort.

Chief

Your supposedly "fact-checking" sources are partisan hack sites, and the Federalist is a completely reputable, serious source.

lets do that!

drumph up to July...

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/trumps-numbers-july-2020-update/

Wow, those job numbers look pretty shitty under president drumph!
To bad he was so incompetent that he trashed the best economy ever handed to an incoming administration.


and under all of Obama/Biden

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/

Just chomping at the bit for ol' Joe to make America great again!

prove it. Yours is a conservative shithole.

David, higher taxes are exactly what our situation calls for. Not higher for all but higher for the 1%'ers who have coasted through the hard times without a hitch. If you think there are no racial issues that have to be resolved, then you are the problem. Laws against discrimination are just a first step. Without economic reforms that make opportunity available, there can be no real progress. Chief, we may not feel we have the best options here, but between the two there is avery sharp contrast.Biden is not inspiring or exciting, but he is not a force for chaos and hatred. He does know what democracy and government are and how they work.

Sorry Chief, but we need to step up, and protect America from the traitor. A Biden administration will do that, while a drumph administration will continue to betray america to make his creditors and masters happy. The choice is clear.

People need to put politics and ideologies aside and be patriots. If you don't, your country will have no time for you.

Your link doesn’t work, just like the troll job you so desperately want to try and pull. Anyway for what it’s worth I’m one of the people you and the left hate, a Christian. I believe in Pro-Life, law and order and capitalism among a ton of other things that you flip your nose at. But, I could care less if you do...

Like it or not, there are only two people on the face of this earth that are in the running to be the next President of the US of A.

Actually that doesn't bother me. Your willingness to support our country's enemies does though...

You argue with liberals and they tell you the establishment media (that is entirely partisan) considers your sources as illegitimate.

RUSSIA.... lololololol

That's good, a social justice warrior, durn the claws are coming out for a little cat fight. Ever notice how some turds sink and some of 'em float?

China is much more the enemy than Russia. And Trump has been the hardest on both more than the God Obama/Biden and it ain’t even close...

Like I said... Its par for the course for drumph voters to deny this cause deep down inside, you guys know you voted for a traitor and thereby committed a little bit of treason yourself. I know that’s a tough thing to square away with the drumph voter’s facade that they are the "real Americans."

And guys, as "Christians" who seems to support extra judicial killings, racism, violence to rally a base, authoritarianism and disabusing brown people of their children and keeping them separated and in cages, just remember that old christian guidance.

Your sin will seek you out.

In the end, don't be surprised when Jesus sees you at the gates, eats you for dinner and then shits your out into hell. I would expect that jesus and god are not as stupid and gullible as so called christian drumph voters. And are probably upset that you tarnished their good name in your reasons for supporting drumph.
_________________________

Ok I see now, you’re an atheist. Par for the course for the left...

Sure...

Do you read or do I need to post pictures?

https://themoscowproject.org/category/breaking-down-the-mueller-report/

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/18/903512647...nfo-with-russia

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/21...-in-2016-198171

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/...betrays-america

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-house-democrats

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/16/trump-russia-putin-summit-722418

Just trying to figure out the best way to communicate some facts to you...

You don’t communicate. You post leftish leaning links because you lack the intellect to communicate...

Yup, thats what 5 years of christian school and being forced to listen to fa!ry tails does to a thinking person.

Sorry it didn't take for you, but you might be missing a certain prerequisite.

Anyhow, don't sweat it, I'm a non-believer so if there is a hell. i'll be there too. But I figure I'll get better accommodations than you. Satan will appreciate I thought it was all Bullsh!t.

Are they?


Here is mine:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-hill/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/politico/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/npr/

Here is what your side has for support:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federalist/


You know, in order to make a pint, you need to back it up. Kindly show support for your position.

what second term?

Would you all just shut UP!

Would you all just shut UP!

x3

No...but please regale us all on your time in the toilet closely observing turd. I guess thats a job somebody has to do...and apparently, its your job.

Pint?

LOLOLOL

I don’t need to. I see that you’re eat up with all this, and it’s all you have in life. So sad... maybe get a hobby or volunteer for a good cause. Later...

Point.

I think you knew that, if thats all you have while you run away.

I’m not running, not like you I have a life. Here is something you can chew on...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact...ver-wait-times/

Anyway... goodnight snow flake!

Did you pick this up on some talking point? You do know that documented dementia jo is a life long Catholic, this meaning from before his two brain surgeries, so we can't blame that.

Not Christian enough for you? How about the bible tot'in Baptist easy kamala? Does her Christianity taint her political agenda more than her rich Jewish old white lawyer husband? I see a conflict of interest, if not colour.

nca225 Why not do the world a favor and implode...

Why Socialist/Communist Bass'turds like you 3 are allowed on this site is beyond me.

Actually it makes me wonder about Dave.

Oh, so lies bother you huh? Please tell us all how you feel bout these lies:

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Or is that a lie only bother you when it comes from a democrat? Please be honest.

Well there you again thrifty, painting a picture you like with a broad brush. But lets clear this up a little bit for the people who are not as myopic as you.

Like I said, I'll look beyond where I disagree with Biden because at least I know Biden is a patriot and loves this country. He doesn't view it as his own personal asset.

&

Joe Biden = Smart Christian because he knows drumph is not religious and is just taking advantage of the dumb and gullible ones to stay in power.

drumph is no christian. He has no christian values and in fact his values stand in contrast to christian values. But he appoints pro lifers to the court because that makes the dumb christians happy and any outcome in policy, i.e. no more women's choice, will have no effect on him.

Smart move I must admit. Taking advantage of you guys, who because as Christians you have such strong values and morals, look the other way from the immoral and valueless so you can get a bone. \

And in the end, when you get judged. If you think the almighty is going to look the other way at your betrayal of the faith to to get a pro-lifer on the court. God probably not going to look the other way like you did. Risky move for any christian if you ask me.

Lastly, I see that you are getting rattled a bit as you let out a pretty good anti-Semitic trope. Feeling a little aryan today?

I thought conservatives like you don't get jealous of the hard earned wealth of others...unless it belongs to a jew eh' thrifty?

Nice to see the racist come out into the light thrifty. Lets see a jew hating christian, who has betrayed your christian values. Future is looking bright for you.

watt sum of youse guys dont git, is that trump is a champion of the arena...he got where he is by fighting and dominating all that stood in the way to his reaching his goals...

and we have never had a president like donald trump, whose main claim to fame is becoming a multi billionaire, by making money the old fashioned way...work hard, work smart, take risks, dominate others...win, win, win...

historically, andy jackson was similar to trump...which may be why there is a portrait of old hickory in the oval office...

You are as much a fool as they say you are ed if you believe that trump made his money by working hard. He got it from dad, questionable loans and the US taxpayer.

if you are an issue voter, then vote for trump...

if you are a personality voter, then stay home, cause mr. rogers aint runnin this time...

an if you clowns cant handle this, then shut up....

well ed to the educated its more complicated then that. But for you, I guess that works.

225, educate yo self... read "the art of the deal"...

specially the parts about the grand hyatt hotel, trump tower, the javits center and the wollman ice rink...

education is supposed provide simple solutions to complex problems...however, experience is the best teacher...

and if being educated, requires complex solutions to simple problems, then one is not educated, but one is confused and foolishly disillusioned...

oh, and nothing is your right or is free...everything has a cause and effect and a cost...

Please more words of wisdom oh great sachem.

BTW ed, if you were educated, you would know there is no way that POS Sterlingworth with a sh!t stock your trying to hawk is worth $1400.

Thank you for your concern and guidance. What I really meant to say, was that hunter tagged along with dementia(proof link, www.sanfranrocks.ussr) jo in 2013 on a ‘social’ visit to china on AF II. He met with his “partner” li, and ten little days later the chicoms issue a ‘business’ license for their private equity fund, amigos right?

Good stuff, in the six years of hunter’s chairmanship(another link, ww.maorocks.edu), he funneled a cool 2.5 billion into ‘foreign investment’, the commiechinese like their US auto and energy ‘opportunities’, eh? Good thing jo can’t remember otherwise he would be running for prez, right?

What difference does it make at this point? hunter underscores the perks of being a stoner with a corrupt old man. Here’s another link, wmw.spinjoaroundthreetimesandhelookssmart.bejing

You do realize your losing the argument when you pander to your audience right? Or do you think preaching to the choir is a win?

Still a racist, still ignorant and never going to improve.

Have a good day at work observing turd.

225: you sound like one of the confused and disillusioned...

and dont try to trump me by launching personal attacks and dont burden me with changing the subject...

craig: burden's connection to hunters business activities may be his achilles heel...if he does not address the questions, trump with kill him with the allegations of improprieties of influence peddling and extorsion while an elected official of the federal gub mint...

trump most likely has the evidence...he is just holding off releasing it, in hopes that burden will hang himself in denial...

next debate, trump should first stand down and stand by; let burden talk, as best he can...then at the end, pound him down until he is on his knees...then stomp on him before he can get to his feet...rope a dope 2020...

What you're missing is... I could care less bout Trump. I care more bout the policies and conservative practices, than who the name is. Dems get their panties in a wad, because of how he acts and what he says. Me... I don't care, that's not important to me. Also if the man was truly racist, why does he hire black/brown people?

Also I'm with jOe. Why the hell are you on here other than to troll?

battle, souns like you are an issue voter...

an we need 225's here...they provide necessary punching bags for hostility release...

an please define "racist"...anyone?

for me, racist and racism is viewing others positively or negatively, based upon my prejudices as to their racial appearance...and having nothing to do with cultural prejudices, which is a whole different thing, as is racial profiling due to cultural stereotyping...

Sums it up perfectly.

I actually care about the President. I get no tingle up my leg, but clearly there would be no voice otherwise. I would also strongly question what types of justices a Romney or Bush would nominate to the various courts as well as their spineless show of support via political paths of least resistance.

My 18 yr. old grandson, who has been pictured on dove fields with me many times here, went and registered to vote on his own, without being told to. He also has decided he is a Trump supporter and will go to the polls for the first time to cast his vote. It's encouraging to see young people getting engaged and making good decisions for themselves.

All young people aren't fools.

SRH

The election is much more than Trump or Biden. I don't agree with everything the President says or how he acts. However, he gets my vote because I agree with nothing the left says or how they act.

I believe in individual liberty and freedom. The left seems to be constantly attacking and suppressing those freedoms. A good example is the current cancel culture and dwindling First Amendment.

Another is the Second Amendment. Make no mistake, the left wants NO firearm ownership. I don't own an AR-15 type rifle. I have no interest or need for one. But I defend the right to own one, because if I don't who will stick up for our double guns or even muzzleloaders (yes, they want those too).

I believe in law and order. The left clearly does not.

I believe in a secure border and lawful, merit based immigration. The left wants open borders with a come one, come all mentality.

I prefer a Supreme Court with judges who believe in the Constitution and make decisions based on the law as written, not as they wish it to be. The left wants activists on the bench.

During my careers I have traveled the world. I have seen what the Soviet Union did to Eastern Europe. Mainly the former East Germany, Hungary, and the Czech Republic. I have been all over Central and South America. I have seen what socialism does to a population and what could be thriving countries.

The left has taken over what was once a center-left party and radicalized it. Their platform simply won't work. It never has, and never will.

My vote will go to our President, with the hope that some sort of civility and order can be restored to our cities before it spins out of control. The left will only continue to encourage mayhem and fan the flames of anarchy, division, and class warfare.

And that's why your not really a christian, yet your hold yourself out as one.

Deeds and acts matter in your faith or don't you know that.

Al it really sums up CG is an intellectual and moral inconsistency that is un-defendable.


And frankly, You have espoused the virtues of democratic principles
and a hatred of authoritarianism in the past, yet your support for drumph is squarely at odds with those closely held principles of yours.

https://www.justsecurity.org/70544/trumps-moves-are-right-out-of-the-authoritarian-playbook/

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/09/08/10-ways-trump-is-becoming-a-dictator-election-edition/


I sure do hope your not just a sunshine friend to democratic principles CB.

Troglodytes do tend to travel together.

And apparently very willing to betray your country to get your politics. Loyal and patriotic American countrymen will not forget you.

So voting for what you believe is now a "betrayal to your country?"

Thanks for justifying my thoughts against the left.

As to being a "loyal and patriotic American," I would say that my 40 years of service to this country proves that.

My Honorable Discharge says so anyway...

Here is what vets think about being loyal means woodsman. Get the memo and live by it.

https://youtu.be/KWuLfvL20aY

Your putting the security and the national interest of our nation at risk for your own selfish political desire is your betrayal.

Stop being tribal, stop thinking this is just progressive tripe and do what is good for the country, otherwise your the one sh!ting on the 40 years of your service and the ones who served with you. Remember you swore an oath to protect the Constitution from all enemies, foreign or domestic. That doesn't stop when you get discharged.

+1 on what OldMaineWoodsman said. It is all about policy & the direction our country is taking & not about the president's personality.

quire?

The level of English communication on this board is declining rapidly.

Should be "choir" damn autocorrrect. I'll edit the original.

I don’t think, I mean I know you’re not the one to judge who Christian or not...

You’re just here to troll. Nothing more.

Your right. You don’t think.

stan, your grandson is to be admired for his registering to vote...

i have some new voters in my family as well, six in total...three will most likely vote for trump...three will most likely vote against trump...so it goes...

an, nobody i know is actually votin fur burden...

What a load of crap, the most unpatriotic thing I have ever heard. What a [censored], everyone knows it’s unAmerican to work. All your fixation with turds, it’s beneath me!

so, nobody else is willing to reveal their definition of racist/racism?

What's your definition?

Hey, BTW, is it still your policy that you do not let prospective buyers actually view the firearm in question and that they have to rely on the pictures you provide and purchase the firearm sight unseen over the internet?

I'd like to know just in case anybody inquires about the nice high condition firearms you sell.

yawn...

This is a great example of misdirection and spin. It is a false dichotomy that the issue is policy vs personality.

This purposely ignores the actual issue. Policy vs foreign influence. drumph is a puppet of the Russian government and makes every effort to satisfy Putin and yields our national interest to that of Russia.

It is inexcusable that the trump voter willfully ignores this.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/h-r-mcmaster-says-trump-050038060.html

For you people who wonder why there is so much hate in the country. It is because of this. And responsibility for it lies squarely with the trump voter.

news bomb shell...anonymous source, known only to us as "nca225", just revealed to us that apparently president donald j. trump, aka "drumph", is "a puppet of the Russian government and makes every effort to satisfy Putin and yields our national interest to that of Russia."...the truth is finally revealed...after over four years of intense efforts by multiple parties, only 225 is skillful enough to get to the bottom of long suspected treason on the part of our current sitting president and his associates...

congrats, 225...you duh man...

an now we awl eagerly await your reveal of the evidence and proof so long sought by udders...

you do have duh evidence an duh proof...don ja?

Go back and read every single link I have posted about it ed. That’s the proof.

Until you do, and then come up with another authority stating otherwise, you’ve got nothing, which is why you have not provided anything ever to the contrary.

Supporting the government of a foreign adversary will not be forgotten by your fellow countrymen ed.

You're an imbecile, whose brain has been rotted by reading too much left-wing propaganda bullshit.

Kindly provide an authority that depicts the sources I listed as left-wing propaganda.

BTW just because the information provided to you contradicts what you believe, that does not make it left wing propaganda. You have to first understand that in order to address it.

Until you do your position is unsupportable.

225, better yet, send yo evidence an proof to "bug eyes", dat sinister congressman from ca...watts his name...

neva too late to dig up ah dead hoss, an start beatin on hit agin...

I knew that was a task that was beyond your capabilities ed.

This is TOO FUNNY. Of course, we all know that nca225 is TOO STUPID and TOO MUCH A DNC SOCK PUPPET to acknowledge that Obama was the one who was caught telling ex-Russia President Medvedev that he could be "more flexible with Putin after the election."

Then, when Putin invaded Crimea and the Ukraine, Obama and Biden did nothing to stop them. When the Ukrainians were desperate for help, Obama and Biden provided blankets and MRE's, while Trump provided actual military aid and imposed severe sanctions on Russia.

Of course, Biden had an excuse for not doing more to oppose Putin. He was busy intervening in foreign affairs to pressure the former Ukraine President to fire the prosecutor who was launching an investigation into Barissma, the Ukranian Energy Company that paid Hunter Biden millions for serving on their Board... with zero energy production experience.

But DNC sock puppets like nca225 or rocky mtn bill never like to mention stuff like that. And Billy would NEVER challenge me to any debate, or to show two lies he has told here. I could do that in my sleep, and have caught Billy in numerous flat-out lies.

I'm surprised that Argo44 isn't whining about nca225's decidedly off-topic Threads today. Everyone here knows that this site is dedicated to Belgian model trains and Pushtan genealogy topics.

touche

I did provide authority. So this is an incorrect application of the term “touché”.

Unless you are not aware of how to properly use the term.

225, betcha "bug eyes" would luv to hear from yu...