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Posted By: battle Ithaca Flues - 06/07/21 02:56 PM
Which pad was correct for the Flues model?
Posted By: keith Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/07/21 06:37 PM
The Silvers, Jostam, and Hawkins pads were available to shooters in the 1920's. The popular Ithaca Sunburst pad was not introduced until 1932, several years after the Flues was replaced by the NID. I don't have any old Ithaca catalogs to know if they offered pads as a factory option on the Flues doubles.
Posted By: L. Brown Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/07/21 06:48 PM
Not the Ithaca Sunburst. It didn't come along until the NID era. Couldn't find anything in Walt Snyder's book. It'd probably require some digging by someone with a collection of Ithaca catalogs. And it might well depend on when your specific Flues was made.
Posted By: battle Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/07/21 07:24 PM
1923
Posted By: Walter C. Snyder Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/07/21 07:48 PM
Any pad before 1923 e.g. Hawkins 'heart' pad, many of the Jostam pad, No Shock, Silvers to suggest a few.
Posted By: Researcher Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/07/21 08:08 PM
The most common pad at that time would be the now extremely hard to find Jostam Anti-Flinch.

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As popular as the Anti-Flinch was from WW-I to WW-II it is really had to fathom that no one is reproducing it.
Posted By: gunut Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/07/21 09:10 PM
I had Hugh Lomas put one of those on a Gr.2 1906 LC Smith a few years ago.....I know its a little later than the gun....but looks good on it....
Posted By: battle Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/08/21 01:53 AM
Anyone know if Ithaca offered a pad as an option? My Flues has the original butt plate and I won’t cut the stock, but I need more than 14” LOP. A slip on is NOT an option.
Posted By: ed good Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/08/21 02:22 AM
why not scab on wood or polymer?
Posted By: battle Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/08/21 02:36 AM
Because i want it to look period correct. Not like some of you're tarted up torch jobs.
Posted By: KY Jon Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/08/21 03:59 AM
Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturing Company. They have several Walt listed. While not period correct I like the look of the sunburst pad. Keeping to period correct pads look at the Harkins heart, silvers, no shock or Jotsom. So many options so few guns to fit. Might need to buy a couple extra pads for future use.
Posted By: Researcher Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/08/21 02:28 PM
The repro Hawkins pad is huge, 15 hearts, and can't be ground down too much or you get into the hearts. The 13 heart size would have been more useful for most shotgun applications.

What year did Hawkins become available. His earliest Patent was 1919, but the one that appears to most apply to the pad we know was applied for in 1924 and granted in 1925.
Posted By: Stallones Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/08/21 06:59 PM
I WILL CHAECK MY FLUES AND SEE WHAT IS ON IT.
Posted By: ed good Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/08/21 11:27 PM
pads on vintage guns reduce their resale value...
Posted By: battle Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/08/21 11:48 PM
Ed... the gun isnt for sale. And if it were, i still have the original butt plate for it.
Posted By: Walter C. Snyder Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/09/21 01:28 AM
Battle, I have a NOS Hawkins 13 heart pad. PM me if interested.
Posted By: battle Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/09/21 02:12 AM
Originally Posted by Walter C. Snyder
Battle, I have a NOS Hawkins 13 heart pad. PM me if interested.

PM sent.
Posted By: Researcher Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/09/21 02:14 AM
The high grade Flues double shown on the order form in the Flues era Ithaca Gun Co. catalogs from 1919 thru 1925 has a Jostam Anti-Flinch pad.

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The gun on the order form in the 1915 Ithaca Gun Co. catalog has a butt plate.

Looking through a bunch of my old catalogs I find the Hawkins pad shown in the 1926 E.K. Tryon catalog. No Hawkins pad in the 1922 Schoverling, Daly & Gales catalog. I have several undated H & D Folsom catalogs and the ones that have the Flues Model Ithaca doubles have no Hawkins pad but when the NID appears the Hawkins pad is on the recoil pad page.
Posted By: Recoil Rob Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/09/21 12:48 PM
This is a very late (1925) Flues 20 I had and (regretfully) sold some years back. Not sure if it was original.

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Posted By: battle Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/09/21 12:48 PM
Its a grd 1 with 1 1/2 engraving 28ga.
Posted By: Researcher Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/09/21 02:07 PM
That is the pad Ithaca introduced in the mid-1960s. From the 1966 Ithaca Gun Co. catalog --

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Posted By: Recoil Rob Re: Ithaca Flues - 06/09/21 02:31 PM
Flues was later than I thought.... grin
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