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Posted By: Bill Graham TW Stake info - 10/29/21 01:49 AM
Seeking some information on a Belgian maker, TW Stake.

Never heard of him, and then in a couple weeks time, two show up to be worked on. 12ga BLNE, and a 12ga BLE whose ejectors are similar to Westley Richards but without being contained in a box. Both have “Krupp Steel Barrels” printed in the matting on the rib.

Thank you.
Posted By: GETTEMANS Re: TW Stake info - 10/29/21 06:53 AM
it is possible that it is Tinlot Walthère who was a gunmaker in herstal around 1870............. till (unknow)
Marc
Posted By: ellenbr Re: TW Stake info - 10/29/21 11:36 AM
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1908 S,D&G Advert

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forum...p;Words=stake&Search=true#Post392144

Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: TW Stake info - 10/29/21 11:50 AM
>>The integer value for the tubeset length would have been 28". Not sure on the house number, inspection number, etc. S,D&G had a very large presence at the Sportsman Expo held at the Madision Square Garden and I believe it began 1895. At the 3rd annual event in 1897 S,D&G had a display case of 50 upper rung sporting weapons, which when summed was the most expensive display at the event. T.W. Stake was in charge of the display. By the 6th annual event in 1904, George R. Schneider had replaced T.W. Stake and George R. Schneider also represented S,D&G at many sporting events. He may have also competed? Anyway, it is possible that your recently acquired Daly Sauer gun could have been in the display case as some point. Without the S,D&G records it would be tough to prove.<<

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forum...p;Words=stake&Search=true#Post294788

S,D&G just named a specific sporting platform/modell sourced in Liège the fella for T. W. Stake.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: TW Stake info - 10/29/21 11:56 AM
>>Finally found a T.W. Stake(Theodore William Stake - one of original 1899 incorporators) shotgun advert.

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1908 Advert also.

S,D&G also assisted their clients in selling their retail outlets?<<


https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=373761&page=21


Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Drew Hause Re: TW Stake info - 10/29/21 12:29 PM
Marked Neumann & Co.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/9748770...TW-STAKE-12Ga-CASE-COLORS-ENGRAVINGS.htm

Neumann & Cie
https://www.icollector.com/T-W-Stake-Box-Lock-12-Ga-Shotgun_i21396236
Posted By: ellenbr Re: TW Stake info - 10/29/21 12:58 PM
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Hause:

What might the odd >>P<< or >>9<< on the tubes just forward of the flats?

Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Bill Graham Re: TW Stake info - 10/29/21 01:34 PM
Thank you, All.
Posted By: Drew Hause Re: TW Stake info - 10/29/21 01:54 PM
I've seen that interesting 'P' Raimey.

Fabrique Nationale Herstal was established Oct 15, 1888 by Albert Simmonis, Jules Ancion, Dresse-Laloux, M.A.L., Dumoulin Freres, Joseph Janssen, Henri Pieper, Pirlot et Fresart, Credit General Liegeois, Nicolas Vivario, Auguste Francotte, and Emil et Leon Nagant.
Syndicat des Pieces Interchangables was established by François Dumoulin, Neumann Brothers and Janssen Bros. in 1898.

Not the usual Pieper 'P' so maybe Pirlot?
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