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Posted By: ed good bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/28/22 07:54 PM
how many can we list...here are some that come to mind...

frank forster, remember he shot a double muzzle loader, english, as i recall him sayin...

william harden foster, a 16 ga hammer gun, parker?

burt spiller, 20 ga parker vh...

george bird evans, 12 g fox sterlingworth and then a 12 ga purdy, willed to him by dr norris...

frank woolner, custom win 59 12 ga auto loader...ugh..

cecil heacox, 20 ithaca nid...

jim fergus, 16 ga sterlingworth...

charles fergus, 20 ga skb, later an english box lock...

your turn...
Posted By: mc Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/28/22 08:26 PM
Elmer fudd double barrel gun
Posted By: Run With The Fox Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/28/22 09:13 PM
Yes- but it was his choice of one of 2 PURDEY guns, edmundo. A Purdy is a fine paintbrush, but NOT a shotgun. Charles Cadwallader Norris, a life long bachelor, like Corey Ford, who shot birds with a 12 gauge M21, by the way- He was a professor of gynecology at Penn State, gre up in "Old Main Line" wealth-also an avid fly-fisher who loved Salmon fishing in the NE rivers--I owned, at one time, a Hardy Cascapedia Fly Reel and a Gillum 9&1/2" 3 pc.salmon rod supposedly owned and used by him. RWTF
Posted By: ROMAC Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/28/22 10:00 PM
Aldo Leopold shot a Fox 16 gauge XE.
Posted By: ClapperZapper Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/28/22 10:38 PM
Worth Mathewson shot a Greener.
I had it for a while.
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Posted By: ROMAC Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/28/22 11:18 PM
Morris Baker, owner of RST Shotshells, now owns Burt Spiller’s Parker VH 20.

The story is that it came up for auction and nobody knew the provenance, except for maybe Morris.
Posted By: Stanton Hillis Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 12:44 AM
Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
Worth Mathewson shot a Greener.
I had it for a while.

He also shot an L C Smith for several years. Did you ever own it?
Posted By: ed good Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 01:48 AM
elmer fudd was a great actor, but did he write bird huntin books, as well?

have done business with worth...he never mentioned that he was a writer...but then i never axed...
Posted By: ed good Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 02:29 AM
in addition to being a writer, corey ford was a grouse hunter...

his story, "the road to tinkhamtown", is loved by many...

and there really is such a place in nh, south and east of cardigan mountain...i know, my pals princie and maggie and i found the ruins...

and this is for those of you who love the new england woods in early october...

Posted By: ClapperZapper Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 04:45 AM
No, just the Greener.
I posted pics of it here some years ago.
Shot some geese and ducks with it.
Now it lives in St Paul, MN

I am out of town
I re-uploaded a pic of it just for you , Stan.
Posted By: L. Brown Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 10:38 AM
Originally Posted by ROMAC
Aldo Leopold shot a Fox 16 gauge XE.

Which did not have a safety.

"Tap" Tapply shot a Model 21 20ga. Burt Spiller gave his Parker VH 20 to Bill Tapply, Tap's son. Morris Baker acquired it after Bill Tapply passed away.

Steve Grooms shot an Ithaca SKB Model 600 OU 12ga he called "Cacklestopper". He contacted me several years ago, after he was no longer hunting, about putting Cacklestopper on the market along with autographed copies of his two pheasant hunting books.

Michael McIntosh shot a Wilkes 12ga. He also had an AyA 12ga made with the same specs as his Wilkes. The AyA was his "travel gun".
Posted By: Mills Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 10:44 AM
Steve Smith - Parker 16
Posted By: Shotgunlover Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 10:44 AM
Nash Buckingham ordered his Parker with no safety. When a person knows how guns function they know the safety is not a safety.
Posted By: Mills Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 10:58 AM
Charles Norris - LC Smith
Posted By: eightbore Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 11:23 AM
Nash owned some Parkers, but I don't recall him ordering any.
Posted By: ROMAC Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 11:48 AM
Jack O'Connor had a short barreled custom Model 21 twenty gauge. He ordered it to hit center of pattern 1 foot high at 40 yards. His theory was that rising birds would fly into the pattern and mitigate any lack of follow through. I think he was on to something personally.
Posted By: Wild Skies Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 12:52 PM
Larry Brown owned too many guns to remember and a whole bunch to be named later.
Posted By: lagopus Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 03:38 PM
I'd better chuck in some from the other side of the big pond: Denys Watkins-Pitchford who wrote under the name BB after his favorite shot size for geese. He wrote Children's books and quite a few Countryside and Wildfowl Shooting books. He used a double 12 bore 3" magnum by The Midland Gun Co. A friend now owns the gun together with his shooting diaries. The gun is well provenanced with an account of its purchase in the diaries together with the original receipt pasted in.

Another Shooting and Wildfowling author by the name of James Wentworth Day had a double 8 bore by Joseph Lang which he called 'Roaring Emma'. This gun is now owned by a Wildfowling Club and is loaned out to members. There are many accounts of its use in his book 'The Modern Fowler'. Lagopus.....
Posted By: Drew Hause Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 03:52 PM
Reading "The Old Man and the Boy" at age 13, and the Boy Scouts, changed the direction of my life
The Old Man used a never named pump
The Boy's first gun was a 20g loaner from his grandfather, but his Christmas gift was a 16g Sauer
https://biggamelogic.com/ruarks-guns/
Posted By: Researcher Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 04:05 PM
Writers Major Chas. Askins and Elmer Keith had more shotguns than fingerprints on Liz Taylor's a.....
Posted By: Drew Hause Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 08:48 PM
ROMAC: was Aldo's Fox a 16 or 20?
https://www.aldoleopold.org/post/the-story-of-aldos-gun/
https://sportingclassicsdaily.com/aldo-leopolds-fox/

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Posted By: Drew Hause Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 09:29 PM
O'Connor's Arizaga
http://sportsmanslegacy.com/firearm...ngraved-cased-two-barrel-sets-made-1956/

AYA
https://www.fieldandstream.com/blast-from-past-jack-o-connors-aya/

3" 20g Model 21

12g Skeet grade Model 21
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/13103/lot/2279/?category=list

and apparently a bunch more Model 21s
https://www.dl-online.com/sports/jack-oconnor-americas-greatest-gun-writer
Posted By: Drew Hause Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 10:32 PM
Elmer Keith's estate sale in 2015
https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/elmer-keith-gun-collection-auction/249494
The auction listing is still up
https://www.morphyauctions.com/jame...s-auction-tradition-continues/?session=1

The Askins/Keith Ithaca Mag 10
https://www.morphyauctions.com/jamesdjulia/item/1033-373/
and 16g 5E
https://www.morphyauctions.com/jamesdjulia/item/1034-373/

which Dave was able to fondle in Vegas prior to the sale
https://www.shotgunworld.com/threads/elmer-keiths-major-askins-10-gauge-magnum.412904/
Posted By: ROMAC Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/29/22 11:14 PM
Drew: You are correct! I must have mis-remembered.

Mea Culpa.....
Posted By: Stanton Hillis Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 12:13 AM
i really can appreciate the literary license of the auction house describing the nicks and dents on O'Connor's gun they were selling ...........

"a delightful scattering of field impressions serve to enhance personality."

grin grin
Posted By: L. Brown Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 11:08 AM
Originally Posted by Wild Skies
Larry Brown owned too many guns to remember and a whole bunch to be named later.

You hit the bullseye there! This year, I'm currently enjoying a honeymoon with a Bland 16ga that comes in a bit under 6 pounds with 28" barrels and chokes that are nice for grouse and woodcock. It's worked out pretty well on skeet and a couple rounds of sporting clays. But I've yet to find a grouse or woodcock that's shown itself for long enough to even offer a shot. Not a lot of birds so far, and still too much foliage making it easy for them to disappear in a hurry when they flush.
Posted By: Run With The Fox Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 12:31 PM
How about Ray P. Holland? RWTF
Posted By: ed good Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 03:16 PM
yes foxie, and your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to research the subject and report back in some detail...

suggesting a candidate, without vetting is dicouraged here...
Posted By: ed good Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 03:18 PM
and gene hill shot...ah?

il git back to youse...

ah model 12 an many udders he snuck in under the watch nose of the chairman...
Posted By: ed good Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 03:20 PM
an pat rick mcmanus?

most anything that went bang...
Posted By: ed good Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 03:21 PM
drew, was aldo in fact the real elmer fudd?
Posted By: ed good Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 03:24 PM
and in"cross creek" by marjorie rawlings, there is a chapter on quail hunting, with an image of her, her pointer and a 20 ga vh...

http://rawlingssociety.org/rawlings-photos
Posted By: Run With The Fox Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 09:38 PM
OK, Herr Adler Augen-- from just looking at that image, I'll grant that one might verify, by the frame shape, "carriage bolt" with dished out radiused recess, but 2 queries-if I may: (1) How do you discern that is a VH (extractor) and NOT a VHE- same gun, but not an extractor gun, but equipped with selective ejection, and also the gauge? Hummm?? Der Fuchs
Posted By: eightbore Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 09:58 PM
That "may" be a shotgun, but that's about it for identification.
Posted By: L. Brown Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 10:23 PM

Jack and his wife also owned Ithaca NIDs.

When O'Connor retired, he sold off guns to take vacation trips around the world with his wife.
Posted By: L. Brown Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 10:28 PM
Originally Posted by ed good
and gene hill shot...ah?

il git back to youse...

ah model 12 an many udders he snuck in under the watch nose of the chairman...
[quote=ed good]and gene hill shot...ah?

Among quite a few other guns. Hill also wrote about a short barreled Greener that he owned. Although I heard he didn't shoot it all that well.
Posted By: Drew Hause Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 11:02 PM
Scroll down about 1/2 way here for a partial list of Jack and Eleanor's shotguns
She had a 20g and he had a 4E NID
https://sportingroad.com/2018/07/11/reading-the-legendary-library-left-by-sportsman-jack-oconnor/

Eleanor quail hunting in AZ about 1938 with a double. She also had a Model 21

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Sonora c. 1945 with what looks to be a Cutts equipped SA

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Posted By: Drew Hause Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 09/30/22 11:08 PM
A thread about Gene Hill's Hussey
https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=130811
Posted By: Hammergun Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 10/01/22 12:31 AM
About 5-10 years ago the then owner of Gene Hill's hammergun let me shoot a pair on the five stand at a nice club in West Virginia. I broke the pair and handed it back to him. He insisted that I shoot it some more but I turned him down. I told him that I was afraid I'd miss!
Posted By: Run With The Fox Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 10/01/22 12:57 AM
When Gene Hill and Michael McIntosh visited MI with Brian Belinski on a promo trip for Orvis, the manager of the nearby Thornapple Orvis shoppe arranged for me to take Gene Duck hunting of a Sat. morning, lunch later. My Lab Dixie was in her prime, I shot a Model 12, Gene had his Remington 12 gauge 1100- one of my favorite spots, lots of mallards, we had a fine hunt, and chatted between flights. I told him that of all his many great stories, my 2 favorites were: "The Stranger" and "Pepper"-- I still have pictures of myself, with Gene and Brian and Michael on the front porch of the Orvis shoppe in Ada, MI--I have all of his books, which he personally signed for me. A sportsman like Gene Hill never wears out a welcome-never. RWTF
Posted By: L. Brown Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 10/01/22 10:15 AM
Gene was the guest of honor at one of the Iowa Governor's annual pheasant hunts. Usually a dozen or so teams of hunters. Unfortunately, I was not on Gene's team. But I spotted him wandering around as some of the other hunters were still lingering over lunch. I introduced myself and struck up a conversation with him. He indicated that he wished those slow pokes would hurry up and finish eating. He wanted to get out there and shoot some more pheasants.

I had a somewhat embarrassing moment on one of those hunts. The governor and his youngest son were having a friendly contest to see who would shoot the most birds. At the end of the day when we gathered to report our results, the DNR's MC asked the governor to report on the results of his contest. I'd hunted with the governor that afternoon, with my shorthair Blitz providing our team's canine support. Governor Branstad had a real flurry of action. He killed one rooster over a Blitz point. Another one flushed as Blitz was making the retrieve. He also killed that. Then there was another flush from our left. I was to the governor's left and I looked for him to shoot. Didn't look like he was going to, so I pulled the trigger on that one, right before he did. The governor reported that he was down 2 to 0 at our lunch break, but that he got 3 birds to his son's zero on the afternoon hunt. At which point our Pheasants Forever guide piped up: "I'm sorry, governor . . . but Brown killed that 3rd bird." No hard feelings I guess. They kept inviting me to those hunts.
Posted By: ed good Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 10/01/22 08:56 PM
nick sisley comes to mind...

wrote a good how to book on grouse and woodcock...
Posted By: Researcher Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 10/01/22 09:00 PM
Originally Posted by Drew Hause
Scroll down about 1/2 way here for a partial list of Jack and Eleanor's shotguns
She had a 20g and he had a 4E NID
https://sportingroad.com/2018/07/11/reading-the-legendary-library-left-by-sportsman-jack-oconnor/

Eleanor quail hunting in AZ about 1938 with a double. She also had a Model 21

[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]

Sonora c. 1945 with what looks to be a Cutts equipped SA

[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]

After I retired and was cleaning out the house in Seattle where I grew up, getting it ready to sell, I found a couple of boxes of Outdoor Life from the 1960s. In that I didn't bother to get TV cable or internet hooked up there I spent my down time reading through those old magazines. Most of them I dumped in the club house at Seattle Skeet & Trap, but the one I kept was September 1965. In that issue Jack's column was titled "The 20 Gauge Moves Up." In the article he states that at the height of the Great Depression he bought a 20-gauge 30-inch ejector Field Grade L.C. Smith for $17.50 with case, cleaning rod and two boxes of shells. Then goes on for two columns of text extolling all the great shooting he did with it. He then calls a 20-gauge with 30-inch barrels a preposterous freak and spends the rest of the article explaining why his 26-inch barrel guns with SST and beavertail forearms are better?!? He mentioned that Ellenor had a 26-inch barrel Ithaca 20-gauge but doesn't mention grade or whether Flues or NID.
Posted By: Run With The Fox Re: bird huntin authors an der gons - 10/01/22 09:26 PM
what the Hell, don't forget Francis Sell-- if memory serves, he was a big man for the 3" 20 gauge, possibly like Elmer Keith was for the 10 gauge. RWTF
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