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Posted By: Ted Schefelbein OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/16/22 01:23 AM
Sorry if this is old news for some of you:

https://www.donaldkwalker.ca/obituaries/kingsley-lenin-brown/

I didn’t agree with many of his political ideas, but, shared a common interest in double guns with King. There are a lot of guys who dropped off of Doublegunshop who we never hear from again. I always wonder what happened to Rabbit, treb, and a few others.

Godspeed, King.

Best,
Ted
Posted By: ellenbr Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/16/22 01:25 AM
Many thanks for informing us.

Serbus,

Raimey
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Thanks, Ted. I was afraid King had passed.

SRH
Posted By: Lloyd3 Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/16/22 02:35 AM
Impressive obituary for the man. Thank you Ted, at least now we know.
Posted By: ed good Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/16/22 02:55 AM
also enjoyed communicating with this gentleman...

he is missed...
Posted By: GLS Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/16/22 08:33 AM
Thanks, Ted. Over the last few months I had suspected your report and hadn't been able to find an obituary. King was well into his late 80's when he lost a Lab, but replaced it with a puppy knowing all the while that in the natural order, the dog would outlive him. He was encouraged by a younger friend to take the pup and that the younger man would adopt the dog when King passed. King never considered a life without a retriever. King overcame a heart attack and alcoholism in his middle years to live a life that could be envied by all. RIP, King.
Here he is with Nancy on May 7,2014 just before accepting the award mentioned in his obit. Photo was taken by street youth on the steps of the Museum of Natural History in NYC. According to him, he was dressed in "full Highlander."
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Gil
Posted By: SKB Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/16/22 10:12 AM
Godspeed King! A life well lived.
Posted By: Dan S. W. Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/16/22 12:34 PM
I found him congenial as a poster and was not aware of his many accomplishments. What a loss.
Posted By: GLS Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/16/22 01:23 PM
In the obit, under photos, row #9 depicts JFK and RFK on election night. Behind JFK's left shoulder stands King who is holding a folded document. Gil
Posted By: HomelessjOe Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/16/22 01:28 PM
Never cared for the socialist....but he made for some interesting threads.

Like the time he told about wrestling Martin Luther King....and he kept his composure when I asked was he slick to hold onto.
Posted By: pipeliner Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/16/22 06:17 PM
6000k in a plane impressive. Among all the rest.
Posted By: LGF Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/16/22 06:31 PM
Very sorry to hear this. I sent King a PM last year to ask if he was okay after he went silent and when he didn't respond I assumed he was ill. Here, as in the rest of his life, he was always very thoughtful and nuanced, and never responded in kind when he was shredded by our resident pit bulls.
Posted By: ClapperZapper Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/16/22 09:08 PM
He was a good man. He had a an interesting life. I sure hope that when my final tablet is written, that I have participated in half as many cool things as King.
Subsistence gunning for ducks in Nova Scotia takes you back to the wildest of fowling days. Being right in the middle of world changing events is on another level entirely.

Rest In Peace King.
I’m glad I read your words.
Posted By: craigd Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/16/22 09:57 PM
Originally Posted by LGF
....he was always very thoughtful and nuanced, and never responded in kind when he was shredded by our resident pit bulls.
I think it is a bit of a disservice to characterize King as shreddable. I could not stand his politics, and I let him know often, but he played in the dirt when he wanted to, and didn't when he didn't feel like it.

One of the parting images he left when winding down here a few years back was hand splitting winter fire wood, within a stone's throw of the duck marshes that he was so fond of. Good, bad or indifferent, the old misfires gave King enough comfort to share quite more about him, the man and frustrating old coot, than I believe he would have shared otherwise.

Godspeed King
Some of what he wrote made me wonder what meds he was on, or, missing. I remember a post that led to a pm exchange, in which I exasperatedly pointed out he did not seem to understand that there could be two viewpoints on an issue, and he didn’t seem to even consider that, much less listen to the version that was not his own.
“Yea, sometimes” which, was a minor victory, maybe the only one I ever had with him.

Best,
Ted
Posted By: canvasback Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/17/22 12:21 AM
I couldn’t have disagreed with his politics more. But I would have been a lesser man for not having King for a friend. Accomplished, driven, kind and thoughtful. A good example of what it means to be a man. I’m fortunate our paths crossed.

If it’s possible I think King is looking down and smiling with satisfaction at Craig’s description…..”a frustrating old coot…”

RIP King.
Posted By: mc Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/17/22 01:17 AM
Yep that old commie was an interesting guy
Originally Posted by HomelessjOe
Never cared for the socialist....but he made for some interesting threads.

Like the time he told about wrestling Martin Luther King.....

I liked the one about the Cubans that beat the crap out of him and tossed him in a ditch.


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Sure was high on Crosby and Marchand.
Posted By: eeb Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/17/22 01:27 PM
Interesting that his middle name was Lenin. I guess he was predestined to be a lefty. Enjoyed his posts though.
Posted By: keith Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/17/22 05:11 PM
I must admit that I too had checked for an obituary for King after he went silent. But it wasn't because I missed him or his numerous anti-2nd Amendment posts. I'm not as impressed with his alleged accomplishments as others because it became very apparent that much of what he posted here simply wasn't true. I would not say that if I couldn't prove it. He had an uncanny knack of simply pretending to not see any reply that pointed out his falsehoods. He was a master of dropping out of a discussion when there was no other way to avoid looking totally dishonest, and then returning days later after the heat died down. I often thought he might have been the father of "Fake News". Watching him in action here was exactly like watching Biden blame Republicans for high inflation, illegal immigration, and efforts to defund the police.

I do believe he was an avowed Socialist, which he proudly admitted. And he was much admired by our Democrat gun owners and closet Liberals who support anti-gun Democrats. Sadly, when an anti-gunner like King, Ted Kennedy, Howard Metzenbaum, or Sarah Brady passes.... there is always another to replace them. I liked Ted's post questioning what meds he was on. At least that could explain some things.
Posted By: eightbore Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/17/22 06:07 PM
King and I bantered a bit, with me knowing of his politics. I always tried to stay within the bounds of guns and hunting, but King never let his politics be absent from the conversation. I recently lost a good gun and shooting friend whose politics were very similar to King's. I never understood how he could respect or vote for someone who would gladly take his firearms property and/or recreational opportunities from him when it was a very large percentage of the entire estate he had acquired over a sixty some year working career. I am personally acquainted with liberal voting people who own million dollar gun collections and somehow don't understand the possible outcome of such people getting their way in congress. Those wild and crazy Can......s. Oh, well.
Posted By: Goillini Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/17/22 08:07 PM
Like many of you, I vehemently disagreed with King’s politics and his views on lots of issues. He and I had a number of exchanges on those topics. But he was always respectful of me and I of him. I never met him, but if I had I’m sure we could have sat down and had a friendly chat about birds, dogs, double guns and shooting. RIP King Brown
Posted By: eightbore Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/17/22 10:35 PM
King was one of a small group of libbos who could "Carry a message to Garcia".
Posted By: mc Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/18/22 12:32 AM
Keith no king was a commi he proudly pointed out his middle name
Posted By: GLS Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/18/22 01:09 AM
Here's a magazine article about King written by a known Canadian Author/Writer Harry Bruce. It was written in 1974. Geo sent me the article. King had friends of all stripes and political persuasions.
Gil
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Posted By: GLS Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/18/22 05:28 PM
“Still wondering why someone who claims such a friendship with JFK that he helped him out by taking Jackie on lunch dates was never once photographed. And that wild claim that you had such easy access to the Kennedy brothers that U.S. reporters complained about it. The Kennedy clan had to be one of the most photographed families in history. Don't photographers and reporters go hand in hand and travel in the same circles? When you go out to tend your grapes with JFK and Elvis, how about sending us a selfie? I told everyone here about doing similar Google searches on a few of your contemporaries who were pretty small time local newspaper reporters in my hometown. There they were in old photos interviewing Nixon, Eisenhower, JFK, etc. But these modest and decent men never claimed to be something they were not, and never felt the sick need to inflate their egos and their resumes.”
Above was said in a 13 page “piling on” Kingsley for being a “fabulist” about the Kennedys and MLK. 7/14/15 #410269. Here’s a photo which was on his obituary page. Posted somewhere on the forum was a link to a video of a filmed CBC interview of MLK by Kinglsey. After the video was posted, the attack then shifted from he didn't know MLK to that MLK didn’t like Kinglsey because he didn’t look at him in the interview which was recorded by a single camera from the side.
Kinglsey is on JFK’s left shoulder between JFK and RFK. Brown is holding a folded document. Photo found on Brown’s funeral home site.
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Posted By: SKB Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/18/22 06:11 PM
Thanks Gil. King had some amazing life experiences.

The quote above really shines a light on just how little some people can be.
Posted By: Tim Carney Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/18/22 06:49 PM
Very sorry to learn of King Brown's death. Found him knowledgeable, and a great foil for some of the absurdities on the far right that people this Board.

Regards, Tim
Posted By: mc Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/18/22 09:32 PM
Yep commie are great foils and even better when they make stuff up I thought it was intertaining and some of his positions were just false that he stated as fact.still an interesting commie,,.ps I didn't think highlander could be commies
Posted By: mc Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/18/22 09:34 PM
Yep commie are great foils
Posted By: keith Re: OT-Wondered what happened to King. - 10/21/22 10:28 PM
mc, I don't know for certain if King was a Communist. He frequently admitted to being a Socialist. He also openly admired much of Communist dogma and Lenin's philosophy. If it walks, quacks, and flies like a duck, I suppose there is a good chance it's a duck.

I will say that I did admire the fact that King openly admitted his politics and his disdain for our 2nd Amendment and our NRA. That is in stark contrast to some little men/girls who try to hide their affinity for anti-gun Democrats by calling themselves "Independent Moderates" or just barely revealing their attitudes by their negative attitudes toward pro-gunners and Conservatives. King always preached about civility, yet never had any problem referring to Conservatives and Republicans as selfish, greedy, bigoted, racists, misogynists, haters, and more. That's why I often reminded him that dishonesty is not civility.

I saw that silly article written by Harry Bruce when Geo first posted it here a couple years ago. The article was sent to Geo by King himself, and I'm sure King was very proud of it. I can imagine he sent it to lots of people, and probably had it memorized. It was written by a friend of King, so it's probably safe to say there was plenty of personal bias involved. I saw it as being not much different than the Screen Actor's Academy giving Oscars and fawning praise to creeps, pedophiles and child molesters like Harvey Weinstein or Roman Polanski.... nothing but meaningless fluff, written by a guy who had a deadline and needed an article to sell to a magazine.

Geo refused to tell me why he sat on it for a couple years before he posted here as a totally off topic Thread dedicated to propping up this forum's most dedicated anti-2nd Amendment activist. Geo admitted that he knew it would cause a shit-storm, but he did it anyway. How does a guy who claims to dislike shit-storms here then intentionally ignite one, especially after claiming that the forum shit-storms chase members away??? Just another of the many scheming games played here over the years.

I also don't know why GLS didn't attribute the "QUOTE" he then posted concerning some of King's wild claims to me. Those were indeed my words, and I still have exactly the same opinions about most of the wild claims King made here concerning his imaginary relationships with the John, Ted and Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., Fidel Castro, etc.

I AM NOT impressed that GLS posted that old photo of King standing in a group of men behind John F. Kennedy. As I stated several years ago, when I really began to seriously doubt all of the crap that King told us, I searched high and low to try to find evidence of his claims. The amount of evidence and photographs supporting his claims was almost non-existent. And it was even less than several local 1960's journalists from my area, an even smaller News Market than the CBC was when King was a field reported for them. As I said, I found a good many old photos of small-time reporters from my area standing with, or in close proximity to the Kennedy's, MLK Jr., Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, etc. Yet none of those men ever imagined that they shared some bond or relationship with the famous people they covered or interviewed. Yet King did. You'd think he'd have more photographic evidence of those claims than he had of himself in a kilt or skirt, but he didn't. And he also imagined himself on par with Canadian 1960's News luminaries such as Morely Safer and Peter Jennings. Virtually everyone has heard of those famous journalists, but I'd venture to say that before you all came here to DoubleGunShop Forum, virtually none here ever heard of King.

The most telling statement in that article appeared on the first page. King's friend wrote, "...since excessive modesty is not one of his faults, some of his old friends in journalism regard the self-image he projects with affectionate cynicism."

So if his own friends and co-workers didn't believe his crap, why should we?

I had serious doubts about King's claims when I first joined here, and I sure didn't care for his politics, particularly when it came to Gun Rights. But I really began to confront him hard after he and Last Dollar made the totally false claim that I had made a death threat to another member here. They repeated that bold-faced lie for several days. And we all know that Dave Weber would have permanently banned me or anyone else who used his forum to make death threats. Too bad he didn't ban those who tell lies in order to attempt to get rid of those they dislike.

I saved many other examples of King telling big fat lies. One example was when he denied posting that he had illegally crossed the U.S. - Canada border several times with a handgun in his airplane. King called me a liar for reminding him of his firearms violation, and I fed him some line for a couple days before setting the hook. I posted an unedited QUOTE from him saying that he crossed the border with a handgun several times. So how did he react? He continued to call me the liar, and changed his story, claiming the gun he had in his plane was a survival rifle... in direct contradiction to his own words.

I could easily go on and on with many other examples. I just think it is sad to see someone who worked so hard to undermine our Gun Rights and our Constitution being eulogized on a firearms forum.
It was always a pleasure to read King's posts here. That he was routinely assaulted by the site's bulldog is regrettable. According the ethos here, there is only one way to think, and all truth proceeds from a hard right perspective. So be it. His detractors here aren't worthy to shine his shoes.
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