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Posted By: Mike Harrell A one off? - 02/05/23 11:32 PM
It has 4 rifle barrels in a half-circle above a 16 gauge shotgun. Calibers from left to right are 9.3x82R, followed by two in 9.1x52R, and finally a 11x74R over the 16 gauge shotgun.

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Posted By: Dennis Potter Re: A one off? - 02/05/23 11:41 PM
Mike, Most Interesting. Just because they could, I guess.
How about a shot of the trigger/selector mechanism please.
Posted By: Ted Schefelbein Re: A one off? - 02/05/23 11:55 PM
When your government has too much to say about how many guns you can own....

Best,
Ted
Posted By: Jtplumb Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 12:45 AM
Sure it would have made a great stagecoach gun! I would have felt better with that than just a double.
Posted By: Mike Harrell Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 12:52 AM
The selectors are those ears in front of the firing pins.
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Posted By: bushveld Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 01:00 AM
I am pleased that it was not me who was given the task of regulating the rifle barrels.
Posted By: Mike Harrell Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 01:10 AM
I agree bushveld. How hard would it be to load a rifle round with a pocket full of cartridges in 3 different calibers?
Posted By: Mike Harrell Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 01:14 AM
Someone sent me this.
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Posted By: Ted Schefelbein Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 01:46 AM
Good thing they put a 16 gauge barrel in the middle, instead of a 12.

Sure would be heavy if it was a 12.

Best,
Ted
Posted By: David Williamson Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 12:16 PM
Very nice piece of workmanship and some history to go along with it. Thanks for sharing.

Could you please show the breech face on how it was designed.
Posted By: AGS Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 12:17 PM
At least itcovered a lot of uses. All the way from small deer to large deer.
Posted By: eeb Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 02:16 PM
Contraption
Posted By: Mike Harrell Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 02:26 PM
No photos have been posted of the breach face.
Posted By: bushveld Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 02:39 PM
Mike;

Re your third photo: Is there a crack in the firing pin bolster of right side where the firing pin retaining screw is located?

Regards;
Stephen Howell
Posted By: Parabola Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 02:41 PM
Be fair, you could also use the shot barrel for snipe and quail if you have very strong arms.
Posted By: Mike Harrell Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 03:08 PM
That's what I see bushveld.
Posted By: Der Ami Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 03:26 PM
This is the only Funflinge I ever heard of no wonder it was in a museum.
Mike
Posted By: graybeardtmm3 Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 04:56 PM
muzzles of the rifle barrels appear to be octagonal (?) bores....four large lands and grooves (similar to enfield/snider?) on the first three tubes....and the fourth barrel has six quite small lands with much broader grooves.

guess they ran out of matching blanks for this bizarre exercise...thanks for letting us look mike.

best regards,

tom
Posted By: Der Ami Re: A one off? - 02/06/23 10:30 PM
Whoever put it together likely didn't make the barrels, but bought them from a specialist barrel maker and may have had one or more in stock from other jobs.
Mike
Posted By: ellenbr Re: A one off? - 02/07/23 12:17 PM
By definition, a true Grande Complication / Mechanical Contrivance. Looks to be 100% Peter Oberhammer design and I am not sure if he or his crew made it, but it wears all the hallmarks.. If you look about 3/4s of the way down(right below the rotating Mauser) you will find an artikel on a vierling( Ein vierläuflges Gewehr von Oberhammer ) but I guess Peter Oberhammer just scaled it a bit more.

https://www.germanhuntingguns.com/archives/oberhammer-peter-of-munich/

https://oberhammer-jagd.de/

I do wonder about the chamberings if they are in-fact correct?

Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: A one off? - 02/07/23 12:56 PM
Upon reflection, I think it was made by Collath.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Der Ami Re: A one off? - 02/07/23 03:21 PM
I don't see Collath which used a "slide and tip" locking and this is a traditional Jones underlever " tipping" locking. Two locks and two triggers for 5 barrels is decidedly not traditional, however. I can see firing 4 barrels, but the 5th barrel doesn't seem to be covered by his patent (patent for two barrels with one lock and one trigger, a 5th barrel would need 3 barrels with one lock and one trigger).
Posted By: journeymen Re: A one off? - 02/09/23 04:50 PM
Thats an incredible machine. How much were they asking?
Posted By: Mike Harrell Re: A one off? - 02/09/23 06:23 PM
I think it sold for around $20,000
Posted By: lagopus Re: A one off? - 02/10/23 01:44 PM
I like the term 'liberated' from a museum!!!!! Lagopus.....
Posted By: Recoil Rob Re: A one off? - 02/10/23 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Der Ami
This is the only Funflinge I ever heard of no wonder it was in a museum.
Mike

I saw one about 30 years ago at a gunshow at the UConn campus in Danbury CT.

Going on memory here so not sure if it was for sale or not. I am certain it had a Dural frame, the owner said for weight saving.

If I remember correctly it had a SxS, probably 16ga, a large caliber rile underneath, a small caliber centerfire barrel on the right side between the right shotgun barrel and the large caliber rifle, and a .22lr that went down a hollow rib. Internal hammers.

Before the days of camera phones so I didn't get a pic.
Posted By: Der Ami Re: A one off? - 02/11/23 05:44 PM
Recoil Rob,
I never heard of such a gun, but if I were trying to track it down, I would look for an Ernst Kerner gun built on a Meffert Dural frame. He is known to have built Vierlings on Meffert Dural frames. He was a son in law of The Mefferts and son of well-known Emil Kerner, consequently had access to Dural frames as well as the technical curiosity to work out the problems with the hammers/triggers/selectors. Also, his drillings/vierlings were often built on Blitz system, so were not limited to two hammers. Thanks for the info.
Mike
Posted By: Recoil Rob Re: A one off? - 02/11/23 06:34 PM
Mike,

The owner called it a "Funfling".

I actually have an Emil Kerner 16ga SxS, little wand of a gun, 29"bbls and weighs about 5lbs 8oz.
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