Today at ac local shop found a A-5 ,standard 16ga.gun with a barrel marked Browning Arms Co. Ogden Utah. Does that mean it was to the Browning Brothers store?? How hard to find are these? I remember I once had a Win. 1892 that was stamped Browning Bros. Ogden Utah. Paul
The guns marked Browning Brothers are rare. I think the Browning book actually says they're only rumored to exist. I have a friend that has one and there was another for sale on one of the auction sites that he pointed out to me, those are the only ones I've ever heard of.
Destry
How about those that say BROWNING ARMS CO OGDEN UTAH on the top of the barrel ?
Don't know on that one, I just had some info on the Browning Brothers because my friend had pointed it out to me.
DLH
hammerback:
If it was from 1903-1904, it should read: "BROWNING AUTOMATIC ARMS Co OGDEN, UTAH U.S.A." Also, did it have the "Cockerill Steel" stamp noting John Cockerill's blast furnace steel being used? Like MarketHunter stated, a tube stamped "BROWNING BROS. OGDEN UTAH U.S.A." hasn't surfaced to those who penned the latest Browning A-5 book. From 1923 - 1929, the stamp "Browning ARMS COMPANY OGDEN UTAH
BROWNINGS PATENT " was used.
An interesting point I've found was that FN was taking it on the chin and about to sink so they started making bicycles during the bicycle craze era. Hart O'Berg, a Hartford, Conn. native returned to the State of Conn. to see the latest US bicycle technology advances and bumped into John Moses Browning, who sent a prototype 1899 0.32 caliber back w/ O'Berg.
Kind Regards,
Raimey
rse
Ahhhh I misread it the first time, I thought you meant the gun you'd seen actually said "Browning Brothers". They do exist, I held one in my hands, it was marked on the reciever.
DLH
I have a 12 gauge marked: "FABRIQUE NATIONALE D'ARMES DE GUERRE HERSTAL BELGIQUE" on top of the barrel and the same on the left side of the receiver with: "BROWNINGS PATENT DEPOSE" in smaller letters underneath. SN 147741. The gun came from England & I was told that it was 1920's vintage. Any info would be appreciated.
Best Regards, George
As noted earlier, the various barrel addresses are as follow:
Browning Automatic Arms Co, Ogden Utah 1903-04
No shipments of Auto-5's to the US from 1904-1922
Browning Brothers. Ogden Utah 1923 (very limited, first 16 ga guns shipped to the US
Browning Arms Co, Ogden Utah 1923-29
Browning Arms Company Ogden Urah and St Louis MO 1929-30
Browning Arms Company St Louis MO 1930-58
etc....
The only barrel address that is particularly rare is the "Browning Brothers" address. It appeared on the barrel of a few Auto-5's and the reciever of a few more.
I have one in my rack.
Jeff
Jeff Mull:
Thanks for the info. Would you be so kind to post a pic of the address?
Kind Regards,
Raimey
rse
Here is a link to a picture of the a 16 ga receiver from 1923, this gun was one of the first batch shipped after FN resumed shipments to the US:
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn55/decoy_1_photos/A516gastdstraightstock062.jpgI dont have a picture of the barrel address on my "Brothers" gun but it is the early style small letter roll stamp that is on the top of the barrel.
I sent an email to Mr. Shirley (author) regarding the gun in the picture and my gun, he indicated that he was aware of another gun like the one in the picture and others like mine. If he ever updates his book in another edition these gaps will be filled in.
Jeff
Good to see you on this thread Jeff, all I knew about the topic was what you'd told me.
DLH