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Posted By: Michael Petrov Who Next? - 01/27/14 07:02 PM
Any maker some of you might have an interest in that we have not covered here?

Maybe others could start a thread about a maker I don't know about or something different like single-shot makers.
Posted By: BrentD, Prof Re: Who Next? - 01/27/14 07:07 PM
Originally Posted By: Michael Petrov
... or something different like single-shot makers.


Please!

I'm about to start another Low/Highwall stock and I would love to see unique treatments of cheek pieces and grips, esp the former.

Brent
Posted By: SKB Re: Who Next? - 01/27/14 08:16 PM
another vote for single shot makers.
Posted By: Michael Petrov Re: Who Next? - 01/27/14 09:45 PM
The only custom high-wall I have is a Shelhamer-Niedner, if you like I can take better pictures, no cheek piece.

Posted By: Michael Petrov Re: Who Next? - 01/27/14 09:46 PM
Here is a factory stocked high-wall with a Niedner barrel.

Posted By: DONS Re: Who Next? - 01/27/14 09:47 PM
Anything on Gartman or Johnson-Gartman, from the 50's & 60's era?
Posted By: BrentD, Prof Re: Who Next? - 01/27/14 09:54 PM
mmmm, very well stocked. Though quite like a Special Sporting Grade (or is it Special Rifle Grade?) factory Winchester.

I am very interested in shapes of cheekpieces and what one things are the advantages or disadvantages of various versions.

For instance, I really like this one and I'm thinking of stealing a good part of it. But I am always open to other creative ideas and suggestions.

Posted By: Gary D. Re: Who Next? - 01/27/14 10:00 PM
Here's something I have wondered about- did Harry Pope do a lot of the stocking on the rifles he built or was it 'farmed out' or arranged by the customer after the barrel/metal work was done? Pics of rifles stocked by the wizard himself would be appreciated. (I'm in the mood for re-visiting some single shot masterpieces.)
Posted By: HighWall Re: Who Next? - 01/27/14 10:04 PM
Risley would be a good one.
Posted By: LRF Re: Who Next? - 01/27/14 11:18 PM
I would like to see how Oberlies' did cheekpieces.
Posted By: RHD45 Re: Who Next? - 01/27/14 11:26 PM
A.O. Zischang and maybe his son who did gun work but I have never seen anything that was attributed to him.My late buddy had a beautiful Zischang Ballard that his son now has.
Posted By: Michael Petrov Re: Who Next? - 01/28/14 01:23 AM
I've held a lot of single-shot rifles over the years and although we all have different taste this is my favorite.

Belongs to a friend,made by Zischang, caliber 25-35. I'll see if I have a good overall picture.


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Posted By: BrentD, Prof Re: Who Next? - 01/28/14 01:31 AM
The way that grip meets the stock is very distinctive.

If you have handled it, how does it feel on your shoulder?
Posted By: RHD45 Re: Who Next? - 01/28/14 02:26 AM
I think I read somewhere that Zischang worked for Lefever and maybe Parker Brothers.Anyone else read that? I think I also read that he did very high end cabinet work which would not be surprising.
Posted By: Nero Re: Who Next? - 01/28/14 06:55 AM
Here is my High Wall in 22/303. 24" octagon barrel.
John Pell (KOGOT) of Trinidad Colorado did the metal work, must be around twenty five years ago now and it was stocked by a young guy at that time who had just left the gun smithing school there. Mark Pharr who moved down to Austin, Texas.
The wood was supplied by a guy who I can't recall his name and who was an instructor there at the school as well. He had a stock on the wall of his workshop at home, showing the right hash he made the first time he used a stock duplicator.
The reamer and re-loading dies were made up by an old guy in Raton who again I cannot remember his name.
I think I can remember another instructor at the school when I was shown around and met John Bull, mainly because he was English and was in the Army in Malaya the same time I was in 1956. I think that was his name. Nice guy.
Johns wife Margaret said his trade name of Kogot was because she called him the kindly old gunsmith of Trinidad because he never charged enough for his work.
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Posted By: Terry Buffum Re: Who Next? - 01/28/14 08:42 PM
RHD45,I've also read that A O Zischang worked for Lefever after Sharps closed.

On page 28 of Robert Elliott's "Uncle Dan Lefever, Master Gunmaker" the photo caption says "A. O. Zischang was barrel shop superintendent for Nichols & Lefever when this 10 gauge double was built for him." The photos shows what seems to be a Grade E N & L hammer gun, but the locks are marked "A. O.Zischang" rather than Nichols & Lefever.

N & L was the last of four partnerships for Mr Lefever prior to creation of D. M.Lefever Co, the maker of the side cocker hammerless guns, and the predecessor to Lefever Arms Co. Incidentally, the first of those side cocker guns, #5000, was displayed at the Las Vegas show recently ended.

The .25-35 rifle above has been with me for the past 25 years or so, and it comes to shoulder just fine!
Posted By: Chuckster Re: Who Next? - 01/30/14 02:17 AM
Did I read somewhere that A. O. Zischang also played and made violins? A man of many talents.
Chuck
Posted By: RHD45 Re: Who Next? - 01/30/14 03:10 AM
Yeah, and he used some concoction to get the "red" into the violin finish. Somewhere I have seen his formula in an article. Reading and studying this kind of stuff for over 50 years and even with good memory I am having trouble remembering where I read something that didn't seem too important at the time.
Posted By: Ryan McNabb Re: Who Next? - 01/30/14 10:48 PM
Mike I'd be interested to see photos of side hammer Sharps rifles you own or maybe have access to. Particularly the better target rifles.
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