Trying out Imgur as a photobucket replacement.



John

Works!

I'm sure a lot of us would like to know more about the rifle pictured.

The top rifle is a 1922 that was converted to Hornet and the original Armory stock restyled by a E.F. Spicer. At least that was the name that was stamped on both the wood and the metal. Mr Spicer was probably a pretty good gun mechanic, but a stock maker he was not. Fortunately he left enough wood in most places that I felt it could be turned into a pretty decent stock. Before reshaping the stock I turned the barrel down to a lighter contour, leaving it full diameter at the forward scope mount holes so as to have enough meat for the screws. Wood strips were glued into the barrel channel and the lighter barrel inlet into the new wood. By time I got done the checkering was completely gone from the forend so I was able to do as I pleased there, but the grip still had enough remnants of his old checkering that I had to follow his master lines. It had a funky fill in pattern so I extended it, but his master lines were laid out at the wrong angle, hence the points at the front not pointing the right way. The scope is not attached to the rifle, just laying there to see how it would look. If anyone knows anything about this scope I'd be thankful for any information. I can't find anything on it. It is a Unertl, but much smaller than even the small game scope.

Regards,
John

The bottom rifle is half of this pair.



Both were sold from SA within a month of each other to a Mr. White from Cleveland. They then went to Hart Arms in Cleveland to be built into matching sporting rifles. I suspect the scopes were added at a later date. I suspect the stock maker was either Dubiel or Rodgers. Rodgers did not develop many of his unique touches until later in his career. His early stocks are indistinguishable from a Dubiel to me. Keep in mind they both worked at Hoffman before they moved to Ardmore. Dubiel went with them to Oklahoma, while Rodgers opened up his own shop on the family farm in Slippery Rock PA until Arthur Hart convinced him to come to work for him. It was at this time that Rodgers developed his unique style. I believe there was a lot of sharing of work between Hart and Hoffman while they were both in Ohio. These are both engraved Hart Arms Cleveland on the top of the barrel in fancy script.

Both shoot very well. I've stuck a bore scope down a lot of these old rifles, and most show there age and show signs of previous rust. The bore on this 1922 is an exception. It looks like brand new. Absolutely no sign of rust or pitting and you can clearly see the machining and rifling marks from manufacturing. It is quickly becoming one of my favorite squirrel rifles.

The White family from Cleveland owned the White Motor Company. At one time they produced 10 percent of all trucks sold in the US. I have not dug enough to prove it, but I suspect Mr white who had these rifles built was from the same White family.

Regards,
John

If anyone knows why the image did not embed in the above post let me know.

Thanks,
John

My guess is that the scope is a Fecker Small Game (which came in a variety of lengths: 10", 12", 14" 16" and 18") with Unertl mounts. The scope on the bottom rifle looks like a Hensoldt Zielyt in a Redfield Senior or Tilden mount. What is the rifle? (I was referring to the first set of photos, since the second photos had not been published when I wrote this message.)

John, those are very elegant rifles indeed. I really love their grips and wonder what they must feel like, especially the 1922.

I am not sure why your imgur images are not showing. I use imgur also without any major problems. Did you select the "direct link" url?

If anyone knows why the image did not embed in the above post let me know.

Thanks,
John

YES

Take the ?3 out of the link

Mike

Indeed, getting rid of he ?3 part of the file name works but that should not be necessary if one gets the right url in the first place.


When I do use imgur, I go to my images. I open the folder I want for the photos I need. Then I click on the photos I want. it opens in a pop up and on the right it lists several different URLs titles

Image Link
https://imgur.com/aoEFMWK

Direct Link
https://i.imgur.com/aoEFMWK.jpg

Markdown Link (reddit comments)
[Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/aoEFMWK.jpg)

HTML (website / blogs)
<a href="https://imgur.com/aoEFMWK"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/aoEFMWK.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

BBCode (message boards & forums)


Linked BBCode (message boards)
[url=https://imgur.com/aoEFMWK]

Behind each link, there is a "Copy" button. I click on the one that is behind the Direct Link URL.

I then paste this url into the dialog box of the message I'm creating.


not that the link behind the BBCode was encased in [img] [/img] so it displays the image in this message instead of the link itself. It is the same url as the one in the Direct Link .

Not sure how that got in there. I get the links just as you described. Even did it a couple times when the first did not work. Thanks, got it fixed now.

John

John, if you modify a photo in imgur, it adds that stuff. At least it has for me, but it has always posted well for me.

I think you are correct on the scope. Found some old fecker ads and it sure looks like one.

Thanks,
John

Lets try one more.


It did it again. First attempt it added the ?1 to the code, had to take it out.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/omHGbTn.jpg?1[/img]

John

NOW you are wiser and a photo poster par excellent !!

Those are quite spectacular .22s. My 241 is nice but not even comparable to yours.

The left gun is the little Owen 12 that Petrov has written about. The right gun is a interesting little model 24 I picked up with a bunch of junk guns at auction.

The gun was barreled and stocked by Griffin and Howe for Edgar Monsanto Queeny, who was chairman of Monsanto from 1929 until 1960. He was an avid sportsman and duck hunter. He was evidently a lefty as well, as this rifle is stocked with cast on, or proper cast for a left handed shooter and has a reversed safety. His Model 21's which were sold by the same auction house had Winchester factory letters indicating they to were stocked with cast on as well.

The gun was pretty rough when I got it. The toe and head of the stock were both chipped and the finish looked like it had been stored in a damp basement and had mold growing on it.

When G&H barreled it they did away with the take down feature and used fairly heavy contour barrel.

John