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Posted By: PhysDoc testing your powers of observation - 05/10/20 08:15 PM
There is something unusual about this rifle that sets it apart, can you spot what it is?

375 Mauser
Posted By: Kutter Re: testing your powers of observation - 05/10/20 09:40 PM
Square Bridge rear,,Can't see the front ring well enough to make out if it;s a double square bridge.

Straddle floor plate.
Possibly a Magnum length Mauser action(?)
The real Magnum length action, not just a standard action with the mag box cut & lengthened and the feed ramp cut back to make room for the extra length of the cartridge.
The extractor and ejection port look extra long to me,,at least the pics make it so.
Posted By: PhysDoc Re: testing your powers of observation - 05/10/20 09:43 PM
you nailed it
Posted By: SDH-MT Re: testing your powers of observation - 05/10/20 10:14 PM
38 close-ups that show almost nothing of the rifle. Maybe xausa will show one action pic when he gets the gun?
The drop box magazine makes it look like Xausa got a good deal. Good for him.
Posted By: xausa Re: testing your powers of observation - 05/11/20 11:15 AM
The first thing that caught my eye was the Oberndorf Mauser inscription on the left side of the action. Then details like the location of the stock reinforcing screw, the straddle magazine box cover and last but not least, the square bridge (very hard to make out) came to light.

I was able to look up the length of the scope and gradually enlarge the photo of it and the action until the image on the screen matched the actual length of the scope. Then I was able to measure the length of the action, which proved to be over 9". A Magnum Mauser action is 9.150" long.

What remains a mystery is the absence of markings on the receiver ring, such as serial number and proof marks. However, the serial number was repeated on the bottom of the action behind the recoil lug, revealing it to be in the 90 thousand range. According to Jon Speed's authoritative book, that dates it in the years 1924-25. Jon lists two Magnum rifles sold in that time frame, both in caliber .280 Ross, which could very well have been the original caliber of the rifle this action came from.

As I had hoped, the muzzle brake was easy to remove. However, with it removed the barrel length is only 21.5" to the face of the bolt. .375 H&H Magnum brass chambered easily and the action feeds empty cases flawlessly. However, firing a reduced load revealed that the chamber is for a .375 AI, which means either resizing the cases to standard H&H after each firing or acquiring special dies.

All of this points to a new barrel, which I have already commissioned. At the same time, I will have the bolt handle replaced with one which looks appropriate and does not have a knurled knob, which is hard on my index finger when I use it to cycle the action. Add a banded ramp and Sourdough patridge front sight and a fresh low glare blue job, and the rifle meets virtually all my expectations. The white line pad will need to be replaced with a Silvers, with possibly a spacer to adjust the length of pull.

A discussion with Dennis Earl Smith, who once ran Fajen's custom shop, reinforced my surmise that the stock was a product of Bishop's custom shop. He gave me a list of names which reflect possible stockmakers. The inletting is so precise that it looks like the proverbial glass bedding job.

The design of the stock, the Tilden scope mount and the vintage of the scope all point to the late '60's as a probable date for the build.

Credit goes to Physdoc, who spotted this mislabeled diamond in the rough and called my attention to it.

Posted By: BrentD, Prof Re: testing your powers of observation - 05/11/20 12:03 PM
Since you are rebarreling, will go with .375 HH? And, will you hunt with it?
The stock looks to me to be the work of Monty Kennedy.
Posted By: Remington40x Re: testing your powers of observation - 05/11/20 01:54 PM
That was one heck of a buy. I doubt you could touch the action alone for that if it were correctly identified as a magnum action from the 1920s. And with a high quality stock to boot. Congratulations!
Posted By: xausa Re: testing your powers of observation - 05/11/20 02:03 PM
Originally Posted By: BrentD
Since you are rebarreling, will go with .375 HH? And, will you hunt with it?



I do plan on rebarreling to .375 H&H. However, unless my numerous ailments are miraculously cured, I probably will never have a chance to hunt with it, although I might conceivably take a deer with it from my ground blind. I like to think of someone else profiting from my alterations. It gives me something to do in these troubled times.

In a way, it allows me to make a statement: "This is the way I think I hunting rifle should look and handle."
Posted By: BrentD, Prof Re: testing your powers of observation - 05/11/20 08:25 PM
Originally Posted By: xausa
Originally Posted By: BrentD
Since you are rebarreling, will go with .375 HH? And, will you hunt with it?



I do plan on rebarreling to .375 H&H. However, unless my numerous ailments are miraculously cured, I probably will never have a chance to hunt with it, although I might conceivably take a deer with it from my ground blind. I like to think of someone else profiting from my alterations. It gives me something to do in these troubled times.

In a way, it allows me to make a statement: "This is the way I think I hunting rifle should look and handle."


That all sounds great to me. I hope you get a deer at least. I look forward to the "after" photos.
Posted By: PhysDoc Re: testing your powers of observation - 06/08/20 02:23 PM
I was looking at proxibid over the weekend and I saw this rifle and thought there were a lot of similarities between it and the 375 Mauser that XAUSA bought on gunbroker a while back. In particular, similarities in the checkering pattern, bolt knob treatment and the little parallelogram in the forend. I wondered what others thought.

Monte Kennedy stocked Mauser
Posted By: Nero Re: testing your powers of observation - 06/08/20 09:23 PM
That diamond pattern under the fore wood of the stock, is that a phase that was popular to the time frame that stock was made or a signature of the stock maker?
I have the same mirror image under the fore arm of a recently acquired flat spring High Wall, only the insert is steel and the checkering is Fleur-de Lis type.
All very well done and a nice piece of wood.
I was told the rifle came into NZ from Canada.
As I posted this so the post above came in at the same time.
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