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Posted By: ellenbr JP Sauer Toplever Gewehr Pieper Rohre - 12/04/22 09:57 PM
Have a gander @ the JP Sauer Nr. 169 with >>Vorrat / Onhand<< Crown over Vs from early 1893. Evidently Sauer must have purchased a full Gesteck from Pieper and completed it in-house?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/958397577


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Too, note the chokes or extensions @ the Muzzle.




Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: AGS Re: JP Sauer Toplever Gewehr Pieper Rohre - 12/09/22 01:54 PM
I don't know anything about these, but I did find an old catalog of some sort that included a picture of the component parts of this shotgun (pointing out it's construction). That spectacle piece at the front of the barrels is shown, along with a monobloc and barrel tubes. I am surmising that it was a novel assembly technique where the barrels were inserted into the monobloc and the spectacle in order to simplyfy assembly at a controlled spacing. Not a bad idea. Slide them together, clamp on a fixture and solder. Laying the ribs then becomes a lot simpler.
Posted By: ellenbr Re: JP Sauer Toplever Gewehr Pieper Rohre - 12/09/22 02:27 PM
https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=279752

There are many threads around that show the components.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: AGS Re: JP Sauer Toplever Gewehr Pieper Rohre - 12/10/22 12:39 AM
Originally Posted by ellenbr
https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=279752

There are many threads around that show the components.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

The source I saw (and didn't copy) was interesting in light of the kit gun. The illustration was an actual photo of all the parts to make the gun spread on a table to illustrate the construction. It occured to me that it might be a kit such as mentioned that Pieper could have provided to Sauer.
Posted By: ellenbr Re: JP Sauer Toplever Gewehr Pieper Rohre - 12/10/22 12:43 AM
Now that is a foto of a Pieper Gesteck that I would like to see.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: JP Sauer Toplever Gewehr Pieper Rohre - 12/10/22 04:27 AM
https://www.forgottenweapons.com/biography-henri-nicolas-pieper/

Interesting read here. I do wonder if the author Robert is our Robert48??

Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: AGS Re: JP Sauer Toplever Gewehr Pieper Rohre - 12/10/22 03:09 PM
I'll see if I can find it, but I often run across stuff like this in long linked searches. Unless they are specifically of interest to keep, I don't copy or record them.
Posted By: Jtplumb Re: JP Sauer Toplever Gewehr Pieper Rohre - 12/10/22 06:07 PM
From Doc Drew post
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Posted By: AGS Re: JP Sauer Toplever Gewehr Pieper Rohre - 12/16/22 03:45 PM
Just as a reference point, the gun went for $793 plus shipping and about 7% taxes and fees. Probably $900 delivered.
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