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Before Oscar passed he was using logwood dye on his rust blue jobs like Parker Bros did at the factory. I was in Gander Mountain and noted that they were selling a liquid dye for traps. Looking closer it turned out to be logwood and was only a few bucks. Has anyone tried it yet? I have a set of tubes I may play with.
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I've used it on traps, but not on a gun. This was going on 30 years ago, when I ran a trapline, as a youngster. The stuff was called "logwood crystals", and it was just as the name implies. A crystallene substance, that was dark blue/black. You added it to boiling water, and submerged your lightly rusted traps in it for a couple of hours. I don't think it would make a very permanent blue job, on a polished surface.
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logwood dye is used in the rebrowning, or reblack/whitening of damascus tubes. Parkers were well known for their black on white or white on black damascus barrels. The logwood helps give damascus tubes a stronger difference, rather then a more common brown refinish.
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Bill,
Same stuff, different form. I see no reason it wouldn't work just as well. I will say, however, that I have not found any real benefit in using logwood for black/white damascus as of yet. I've tried it a few times, and got no more than a very subtle change, which disappears quickly in the next ferric chloride bath.
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Jim, didn't Oscar's letter from the Parker factory people state that the logwood boil was the last step, not and intermediary one? Also trying to get another "Hoosier" hooked up with you as he has a "sick/diseased" sweet elsie and I thought it would be closer for you to take care of it than sending it to me on the East Coast. Best. Dr. BILL
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The logwood was his last step in refinishing. He showed me one of his first jobs with logwood and it was very subtle.
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Both Bills,
Yes, it was used as a last step. Although I haven't tried that yet, my point is that the dye doesn't seem too durable. It's also quite easy to over-do it, so to speak, dying the white areas as well. My caution on that would be, don't get greedy, be happy with a minimal gain.
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Jim, the lack of durability is why Oscar used True-oil as an "over finish" from what he told me. Bill
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