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Made at Via Parte 33 by Fabbrica D'Armi Fausti cav. Stefano & Figlie. How do you come to that conclusion?
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SS, maybe Edoardo Mori can help you here: Eciclopedia delle Armi His email is at the bottom left of the page. JC
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Piazza San Marco is the Square of St Mark's, a famous church in Venice ( Venezia ) built in 828 that has nothing to do with modern shotguns. It is not near Gardone. Great for hand blown glass however.
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PeteM: You mean in all your research you didn't uncover any info on the man-powered Venetian gondola trip hammer??? A lot of water resource there!!!! No, but I failed to mention that mine has a buttplate with Armi S. Marco Gardone V.T. on it. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Raimey,
Do I understand you to say that your 16 ga. boxlock has both the same maker's mark and the Armi San Marco butt plate?
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You can eliminate Bernardelli, at least if you're talking Vincenzo. They used a stork (I think--at least some kind of large, tall bird) as a maker's mark.
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Straight Shooter:
Yes to all. There's the San Marco Lion stamp on the right side of the watertable; on the barrel-flats under the right tube; a buttplate with "Armi" in larger type in the center with "S. Marco" along the top and "Gardone V.T." along the bottom. Mine has the "XX" stamp which would be the Roman numerials for 20 years after the dating stamp began in 1945.
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L. Brown, VB's trade mark is a swan, I believe. The stork would be Van Broeck of Ostend (kidding).
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On a Beretta, also made in the same area, xx indicates 1964. Interestingly enough Beretta also made a Model 409, as mentioned earlier. Beretta made many trade guns during that period without the trade style being shown on the gun. However PB would always appear on the barrels and the water table. Also, the proof mark of the in-circled star with PSF under it is the definitive proof for guns with smokeless powder and is used by Proof House in both Gardone and Brescia.
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Straight Shooter:
Yes to all. There's the San Marco Lion stamp on the right side of the watertable; on the barrel-flats under the right tube; a buttplate with "Armi" in larger type in the center with "S. Marco" along the top and "Gardone V.T." along the bottom. Mine has the "XX" stamp which would be the Roman numerials for 20 years after the dating stamp began in 1945.
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Raimey
rse Many thanks, Raimey. That's the most credible evidence, one way or the other, that I've heard on any forum so far. I'd assume from this that the 'BG' on the facing pages of the book probably stands for Brescia, Gardone. The lion motif is an easy inference for a company named Armi San Marco. It all fits. The mysterious Italian hammer gun is unmasked!
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