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Well, I have an old Crescent Peerless model 12ga, and it is a great old gun, but it has or is becoming loose at the action or the correct term may be 'off face". What needs to be done to fix it? It is a good old gun and has good barrels on it, and I (in the past) never thought twice about shooting high brass 2 3/4 loads out of it for turkey hunting, I don't shoot anything out of it now but I really hate to see it become a "wall hanger". Thanks for any info you can provide.

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High brass 2 3/4" turkey loads? I wonder how it got off face?? MDC

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It may be that the high pressure loads you mentioned have stretched the action, making it off face. These old guns just weren't designed for regular ingestion of whoopie loads. There are a number of good gunsmiths capable of tightening it up. But you'll need to put the gun on a diet of loads it was designed for if you want to keep it tight.


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It can probably be fixed. You may be able to put it back into shooting order with a shim, or a gunsmith can put it back on face, but it will probably cost a few hundred $. Post your location and you will get referrals to qualified gunsmiths. It's probably not worth shipping a Crescent across the country to get it fixed, but there may be a decent smith near you.

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The general location would be Southern Indiana. Well when/if I get it tightened up (I'm not spending a ton of money at this point on a $200 gun), what would be the reccomended load for turkeys? I'll be honest this is really the only shotgun I have except for my slug gun. Also,(this may stir up a hornets nest)If its gonna cost more than the gun did, what would be a good side-by-side replacement. I'm not a collector, I'm just a general outdoorsman that enjoys the company of a decent side-by-side in the field. With that said I dont need a super fine double, I just need something reliable that probably isn't a classic because it will get used a good deal. Thanks for all the advice and information.

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You might look for an honestly used Hunter Arms Fulton or Ithaca Lefever Nitro Special; or for a more modern SxS a Browning BSS or Ithaca/SKB 200.

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There is a very nice Fox that has just been listed in the For Sale section right now. Keep the loads at or below 1 1/4 ounce and 1200 fps and it will last you a couple lifetimes.

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Get 16ga or 20ga Winchester Model 24. About the only thing that will destroy that gun is two-handed sledgehammer. Veeeery durable piece.

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Ithaca/ SKB 200 is a best buy any time. SKB 100, too. I bought three new 100s at $180 each and gave them away as gifts to family members. They're still going strong in one of the harshest hunting environments on the continent.

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So do you think that the model 24 could handle the occasional high-brass load for my turkeys?(16ga.)Maybe I should clarify that that Peerless has had a grand total of about 3 or 4 High brass loads shot through it,but that may have in the end been too many. I patterned it with two before I took it hunting and incinerated a pop can at 25 yards with it (so I figured I could wipe out a turkey humanely at that range with that success)and shot it once at a turkey in the fog and completely missed lol. When I said that I wasn't afraid to shoot high brass it was more in saying that my barrels were in good shape. Thanks for the replies.

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