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#126447 12/17/08 12:05 PM
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Sold to me as a Guild gun. It weighs 4lbs 11 oz. At least 90% case color, 14"LOP, modern dimensions on stock drop, 25" barrels with .05 in both barrels, has been shortened, I assume an inch. I don't know much about markings on Belgian guns but I could not walk away from this one. Looks like an inexpensive gun. Comments would be appreciated.





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IF that is an underlined 'c', it would be a 1964 gun


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I believe it is an underlined c. Thanks. I never would have guessed it is that new. There is an LL in a circle that you cannot quite see in the picture just behind the forend hanger. I assume that is who made the barrels.


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The gun was proofed in 1964. The controller of proof was Clement Laenen.

LL is Leon Leclercq:
http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20l/a%20leclercq%20leon%20gb.htm

For more Belgian proof and trade marks:
http://damascus-barrels.com/bp.html

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Thank you, Pete. I have most of it figured out. This is fascinating.

In the bottom right of the water table picture is F.D.C with an arrow running through it, feathers on the left side. There are several FDC's but none with an arrow on your list. Any idea who made the gun?


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FDC is most likely François Dumoulin. But that is a best guess. Figuring out who did what is always a puzzle.

Nice little gun by the way. I picked up a 28ga hammer gun made about 15 years earlier. Learned to appreciate the 28ga!

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Thanks. You see so few 28g. and this is probably the first hammer gun in 28 I have seen that is affordable so I grabbed it. It is very "cute" and with the 14" LOP was not made for a kid. I picked it up yesterday and have not shot it. It is snowy and icy here today so it will have to wait until tomorrow at best.

It is marked 2865 in a circle. I assume it means 28g. 2 1/2" chambers. I measure 2 5/8" but it is even harder to measure such a narrow bore because it is harder to see. I have been struggling whether to lengthen the forcing cones or shoot my 2 3/4 loads and ignore the difference. I do this is 12 gauge but there is a lot less room for error here and I don't make low pressure loads in the 28 gauge and I imagine that low pressure is a relative term when it comes to such a small gauge.

Because it is such a light gun (4lbs 11 oz) and I have heard that kick is increased when the hull is longer than the chamber (although I see no logical reason it should make any difference) should I be concerned with stresing the stock?


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That is a fascinating little gun! Imagine someone making a mid 19th century gun in modern times with modern steel. Do the proofs marks give you any pressure limit? It is not as if there were a group of re-enactors demanding a gun like this one. I still wonder why--- Looks like you'll be having fun with that one. David

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