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the sabot principle of shotgun ammo has been around since early 70s. i have smith & wesson ammo from this period.
most euro guns from france, italy, spain,.... were smooth bore guns regulated for plain lead slug. the english still make that thing with end of barrels being rifled which is next to useless. this is more specialized gun with fully rifled shotgun tubes and is made in usa plus there are many former military people on this board which by nature tend to be very nationalistic. in aggregate this generates excitment.

Has anyone looked closely at the RBL adjustable regulation at the muzzle? I found it distracting (ugly) and would have much preferred another system.

Re the regulation device.

If you read the first post where I put this on the forum after looking at them at the Shot Show you will see that you are not alone. That thing is UGLY...............

I'd bet a dime to a dollar that if they offered a model regulated for a single load they might be surprised at the response. Even if I did not already have a converted gun coming I would not be inclined towards what is a truly fine gun simply because of how UGLY that thing on the end is.

Still, the rest of the gun is really nice......you can not fault them for much else that is not easily remidied.

ANd this too: The job ( In reality a ART. ) of regulating each each gun to a customers chosen load would be EXPENSIVE and time consuming. So maybe they made a smart business decision.....

its good looking piece if want to see truly ugly stuff visit blaser jadgwaffen site sometime.

Ted, what's the price of the Bruchet these days? I think the attraction of the CSMC may be affordability.

At the time, the gun came in about 1K more than CSMC is getting, now. But, it's a brave new world, these days.
Europeans seem far more interested in combination guns of any stripe than Americans, but, a combination slug gun-bird gun is interesting, all the same.
If I had to fire slugs at something, I'd look into one of the Tar-Hunt 870s. I have a "Whelen" streak in me, and only find very accurate single projectile guns interesting.
Best,
Ted

not sure i would even consider dedicated slug gun. i can extend hunting range by at least 50m by using modern muzzleloader. just looked over goofy w-german jps 12x12/7.62x63 which could add even more meters to max range, but it could not be used in shotgun only zone and there goes it's usefulness. not having scope mount is would be good mixed bag piece in rifle zone. the marking made is western germany was kinda nostalgic. too bad it was expensive and pathetically ugly.

I get sub 1.5" groups out of my Browning BPS with a rifled Hastings barrel. Just so damn heavy to carry.

Recently, I was asked to help appraise an estate. One gun that I had never heard of and could'nt evaluate was a Parker reproduction DHE 20 gauge with a set of 400/450 barrels. It had been to Africa and was used to kill a buffalo according to the wife of the deceased. It was so barrel heavy that I think he must of had a gun bearer. Do you have any idea who might have added the rifle barrels? Don Hardin.

Recently, I was asked to help appraise an estate. One gun that I had never heard of and could'nt evaluate was a Parker reproduction DHE 20 gauge with a set of 400/450 barrels. It had been to Africa and was used to kill a buffalo according to the wife of the deceased. It was so barrel heavy that I think he must of had a gun bearer. Do you have any idea who might have added the rifle barrels? Don Hardin.