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my wwi era model 12 will not cycle itself on empty when slide release is pressed in. do they have to be heavily worn to do that. the "grandma" has about 60% finish left but looking at the bolt head and the "guts" when i striped it completely for cleaning it hasn't been shot much.

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Originally Posted By: Don Moody
You haven't many Model 12s then!


True enough; just one, a circa 1919 with two front ends. One is an original cylinder bore 24" and the second a 28" modified, both numbered to the frame. Its a great gun, but the slide won't drop on its own.

Boy, I like talking about pumps. Sure hope hOjO doesn't see all this and get mad at us...Geo

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My 17 is a 2 barreled set, both numbered to the gun, solid rib 26" Mod. (opened to Cyl. before I got it) and a 28" Full.

Good condition but needs a restock, a bit sort for me.


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You guys are bad to the bone--BAD, BAD, BAD! Almost as bad as chewing gum during Ramadan!

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I have mmy father's 17 that he purchased used in 1929. Would not sell it and still quail hunt with it every few years. Great gun!


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Has anyone ever seen a matted plain barrel on a 17? Or a 31? I just picked up a 1950 870 20g BDL with a 26" matted barrel but have never seen one on any other model despite adds that mention it.



I also have some 17 parts and buy them when I find them. Numerich has quite a few as well.

Most folks don't realize how similar a 31 is to a 17 and how different a 37 is. Common ideas, different guns.

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Finding parts isn't that big a deal for model 17s, at least since the internet came along. Two or three being parted out there in cyberspace daily, it seems.

I have a gun that drops it's slide from the verticle position-a first year model 12. I'm pretty sure this fact is of no relevance to anything, least of all, shooting the gun with any proficiency. Retarded children, perhaps, might be amused by this display, at least for a while.

You want to impress me, show me a pump that ejects the spent empty, cocks the gun and cycles a fresh round when the slide lock is released while the gun is held verticle.

That would impress the hell out of me.
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Originally Posted By: Tim Frazier
Has anyone ever seen a matted plain barrel on a 17? Or a 31? I just picked up a 1950 870 20g BDL with a 26" matted barrel but have never seen one on any other model despite adds that mention it.



I also have some 17 parts and buy them when I find them. Numerich has quite a few as well.

Most folks don't realize how similar a 31 is to a 17 and how different a 37 is. Common ideas, different guns.


Tim, your 870 looks like BDL Grade(ADL at the least). If it is, it will be marked on the side of the receiver. They are not common these days. In those days the standard 870 was called AP Grade. These early 870s are very nice guns.
The ADL and BDL's were only offered with Matted or Vent Rib barrels. The AP were offered with Plain, Matted or Vent Rib barrels.


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Don,

Your correct, it's a 1950 first year BDL #48,xxx.





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