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I have shot at a shoot in Ohio where the subgauge race can be shot with a 410, 28, 20 or 16. You don't slide on straight rings and each gauge shoots from a different yardage. I believe 410 was 28 yds, 28 was 29 yds, 20 was 30 yds and 16 was 31 yds.

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
rich or well connected pigeon shooters gun for special breed of bird. these are not same birdies that fly around sods silo or poop on city dwellers hats.


They are exactly the same pigeons that infest city parks and grain elevators. In fact, that's where most of them come from. At least that's what I've been told by the hosts of the shoots I've been to. They are trapped in areas where they are a nuisance and a health hazard, transported to the shoot site a few days before the shoot, and then given one more chance at freedom. The other option for these birds is to be poisoned or trapped and then gassed. The only thing done to these pigeons before a shoot is that they are fed certain things to boost their energy level. Gatorade, etc.

I would not consider a 20 ga. for competitive pigeon shooting, having always used a 12 with 3 3/4-1 1/4 loads. When that bird comes out of the end trap driving straight for the fence with a tail wind behind him the best 12 ga. shooters in the game will usually lose him. He may be dead in the air with two loads in him but he will fall over the fence. When Cooley, Scotten and Mein lose those kind, I certainly don't have a chance on them.


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I note that many 12 ga. pigeon guns, even Brit. guns are chambered for 3 inch shells. Any advantage there?

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No advantage for 3" chambers. The max load allowed is 1 1/4 oz. shot, (and largest shot size allowed is 7 1/2).

IMO patterns are extremely important in this game. Pigeons are much more difficult to down than one would expect. They are very tough and require a well centered hit to down in the ring. It is common to see a bird hit twice, with what appear to be good hits, especially straightaways, and just get faster.

The frequently winning shots are very, very good. That said, there is a lot of luck in the "draw". That is, sometimes the best shots will get birds that are next to unkillable, and an average guy may get some easy birds and win some money. One easy bird can make all the difference.


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Greg,

The last bird known to be living was named Martha and she died of natural causes.

The last known wild bird was shot, in Ohio I believe, by a farm boy.

Both birds were mounted and still exist. Martha is at the Smithsonian, but not on display last time I checked. The Ohio bird is somewhere in the midwest, I don't recall where.


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