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SXS Jan Visser of Deventer #146573 05/05/09 05:16 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7 wsorce OP Boxlock
OP wsorce Boxlock Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7	I recently came across a SXS by Jan Visser of Deventer (Holland) with Belgian proofs and a reversed j on the barrel flats. The gun is a boxlock with ejectors, 27.5" barrels, English stock , 12G @ 6.46 lbs.I Googled the name and town but only came up with a list of two guns auctioned by Holts. I am interested in more information about this gunmaker and his guns. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Wayne S

Re: SXS Jan Visser of Deventer wsorce #146593 05/05/09 08:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL PeteM Sidelock
PeteM Sidelock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL	You can look up the Belgian proof and trade marks here: http://www.damascus-barrels.com/bp.html I need to get to my reference material and check on Visser for you. Pete http://www.damascus-barrels.com/Movie.html

Re: SXS Jan Visser of Deventer PeteM #146596 05/05/09 08:56 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL PeteM Sidelock
PeteM Sidelock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL	In 1892 J. Visser registered a patent in Belgium. I believe it was for a cocking indicator, but could be wrong. I have no address on him, nor any registered trade marks. Pete http://www.damascus-barrels.com/Movie.html

Re: SXS Jan Visser of Deventer PeteM #146599 05/05/09 09:02 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,791 Likes: 185 North Alabama ellenbr Sidelock
ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,791 Likes: 185 North Alabama	I haven't found much either and if I have read it correctly the gunmaking firm Jan Visser began in mid 1850 and ceased in the late 1970s??? Hopefully Jani will be along with info. Kind Regards, Raimey rse

Re: SXS Jan Visser of Deventer ellenbr #146602 05/05/09 09:16 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7 wsorce OP Boxlock
OP wsorce Boxlock Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7	PeteM, Thanks for the link. I believe the patent was for his ejector mechanism but I could be mistaken on this. I haven't found anything on the reversed "j" yet.The gun was originally chambered for 2.5" but was overstamped with 2.75. At some time, I assume recently ,Briley thin wall chokes were installed.Thanks Wayne S.

Re: SXS Jan Visser of Deventer wsorce #146633 05/06/09 09:11 AM
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OP wsorce Boxlock Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7	Raimey, I am assuming that Jani might have some informatiom/knowledge re: dutch guns. Is there any way to get in touch with him?

Re: SXS Jan Visser of Deventer wsorce #146639 05/06/09 10:11 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,791 Likes: 185 North Alabama ellenbr Sidelock
ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,791 Likes: 185 North Alabama	I don't have his email address but say that he would be in the know. Is the backwards "j" one of Greek letters from the 1950s date code? Kind Regards, Raimey rse

Re: SXS Jan Visser of Deventer ellenbr #146725 05/06/09 08:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7 wsorce OP Boxlock
OP wsorce Boxlock Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7	Raimey, In reviewing the Belgian date codes it seems that the reverse j is in fact a cursive i according to the info provided by PeteM, which puts the gun at a mfg.or proof date of 1930 . Thanks again, Wayne Sorce

Re: SXS Jan Visser of Deventer wsorce #146952 05/08/09 05:44 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL PeteM Sidelock
PeteM Sidelock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL	Wayne sent some pictures: Proof date 1930 Weight of barrels at time of proof 1.224 kg, 2.69 lbs chambered for 12ga 2 3/4", 70mm barrels are choked nitro proofed Makers marks on the barrels: LR L Rotsaert 1920-1952 JT Jean Thonnard armuier (dealer) 1889 Pete http://www.damascus-barrels.com/Movie.html

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