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#148163 05/18/09 11:08 AM
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Has anyone published detailed instructions on how to reline and refit a vintage gun case. I'm pretty handy and would like to give it a try by id like some pointers first. I understand that billard felt is commonly used and white glue. But I'd like specific information before I begin. I've talked briefly to Mike Messina and Charlie Pfleger.
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Hello Mark,

There was a three part (I think) article published in the e-zine "Double Gun Classics".
Maybe someone has them and can send them to you.

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That would be perfect if someone has a copy!


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Mark, I have them saved on the computer at home. If no one else steps up I'll send them but it'll be 10 days. In the mountains right now.


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I've built and lined several pistol cases from scratch and lining isn't very difficult to do. I use felt purchased at a fabric store and white glue. One important thing is to stretch the felt over the surface being covered. If you use care during the trimming process you'll end up with a good result. Here's a Luger I cased in the "French" style. The felt is a pale gold:
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Hi Mark,
As you know I reline quite a few cases and I would advise you to avoid both felt and white glue.
The former goes very hairy as you work it and doesn't like tight bends unlike true baize which is a lot more forgiving whilst being worked, takes a nice fold/bend and looks loads better at the end.
White glue is in my opinion horrid! It doesn't 'grab' well, is impossible to remove once dry and can not be reset if you find a mistake after drying.
Animal glues are far better if you don't mind the slight smell while wet and the 'bain-marie' needed to heat them. The advantages are that it is a virtually instant fix, can be removed with a little hot water and a cloth, and can be steamed off easily if an alteration is required.
Furthermore it is traditional.
The choice is yours but that is my opinion.
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Mark: I know you can do it. I used an all-purpose contact cement that I use for leather. I have done some with a felt from Jeff's Outfitters (it wasn't a real high quality felt but it is OK). I'd like to try the baize that Toby mentioned. But I also use a split pigskin or cowhide in places that get really dirty or greasy--like where the knuckle or hinge pin sits. It really looks much nicer and I may do an entire case that way. I think they are usually done over a foam backing and some fiber board, maybe like a plastic cardboard especially in the large areas like the lid and the bottom. I would like to see the article when you get it. Thanks. Gil Russell Quailman85749@hotmail.com


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Originally Posted By: Toby Barclay
Hi Mark,
As you know I reline quite a few cases and I would advise you to avoid both felt and white glue.
The former goes very hairy as you work it and doesn't like tight bends unlike true baize which is a lot more forgiving whilst being worked, takes a nice fold/bend and looks loads better at the end.
White glue is in my opinion horrid! It doesn't 'grab' well, is impossible to remove once dry and can not be reset if you find a mistake after drying.
Animal glues are far better if you don't mind the slight smell while wet and the 'bain-marie' needed to heat them. The advantages are that it is a virtually instant fix, can be removed with a little hot water and a cloth, and can be steamed off easily if an alteration is required.
Furthermore it is traditional.
The choice is yours but that is my opinion.
Toby Barclay


Well I guess I'd better toss those dozen or so cases away that I built and lined with felt and horrid white glue. I am truly surprised my firearms haven't disintegrated from being housed in them.
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The brits don't understand the wool felt we use to line pool tables (oh shit, is that billiard table?!) is also known as baize.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baize

I've was urinated on by my limey friend Salo for exact same translation issue. No worries.

Here's who I bought from, they sell by the yard and will send you a sample for color checking - which is cool. I like the 'willi-cloth'.

http://www.thefeltpeople.com/pages/colorcards/feltcolorcard.htm

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Actually I was considering using wool pool table felt not the common felt you find in hobby stores. Yeti, I don't see your link.


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