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Hi all, well I'm kind of anal when it comes to weight. I like lighter guns. I do agree that fit and balance are mighty important, but I do like to get a weight on a gun when I'm interested in it. I also get responses like "Between 6 and 7 pounds" or it's "Right around 6 3/4 lbs" I have a digital postage scale that goes up to 40lbs. I weigh everything on it. I'm glade I got it and it didn't cost me an arm and a leg.

BTW, my two lightest guns are English 16's; a Charles Boswell and a W&S Model 500 both at 5lbs 14oz. What a joy to carry. In fact all of my SxS's weigh in at sub 7lbs (6lbs 4oz to 6lbs 13oz)with the exception of my two duck guns that go 7lbs 1 oz and 7lbs 3 oz.

To me weight is an important factor. I like them light.

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Good information from all! I recently asked the weight question concerning a J.P. Sauer 12ga w/ 2&1/2" chambers I was really interested in and received the reply "6lbs on my bathroom scales". It may have weighed 6 lbs, but my experience w/ bathroom scales is that they are frequently off significantly. I passed on the Sauer. It sold for less than I would have paid had I been sure it weighed 6lbs or even 6 and 3/4 lbs. As to my more minor complaint, I saw a 20ga L.C. Smith started at a low price so I clicked on it to take a look. Nice pictures of the sofa, but the gun was kinda small and dark. Then there are the guys who are selling a gun with a starting price in the thousands and the pictures might as well be of their aunt Mildred? Oh well- I probably don't understand sales? Thanks, Kurt

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The Post Office sells a digital scale that weighs to 10lbs., battery or plug in, 1/10th oz. increments and quite portable. A good way to check your scale is to weigh a gun and then weigh the component pieces. The PO scale is within about 1/5oz. doing this. My two lightest guns were both 16s at 5lb. 8oz. Nice to carry.

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Balance type baby scales can sometimes be found for nearly nothing at yard sales. I've had one for years and like it very much. A 12 ga. gun weighing much less than 7-1/2 pounds will beat me up, shooting several rounds of trap or skeet in one day. The lighter guns are nicer to carry a lot and shoot a little. The original thrill of getting a very light 12 ga. that's "Wow, it's nice and light" usually ends with the buyer wasting money on longer farcing cones and other barrel magic BS trying to reduce recoil, if it is to be shot many times.

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I own and use both 12 and 16 bore hammer doubles. Some weigh about 6,25 lbs and two 16s weigh much more, well over 7,0 and 8,0 lbs, respectively, and one 12 weights a bit over 7,0 lbs. Carried on slings, weight is weight. Carried in hand, the 16s are much more comfortable to carry for hours and hours afield, no matter what the weight -- has to do with ease and comfort of getting hand around breech area of gun. The 16s get used afield far more than the 12s. Hunting loads are nearly always 1,0 oz at about 1250-1300 fps, both 12 and 16 gauge.

When it comes to shooting, my trap scores and ratio of birds to shells fired, one of light 12s, the lightest, slimmest 16 and one of the 7,0+ 16s are most effective. And, NO, these three guns DO NOT have the same dimensions nor do they feel the same. They do all point and swing very naturally and fast for me and have very crisp trigger pulls at between 4,0 and 5,0 lbs, with both triggers nearly the same.

As regards chambers, forcing cones, bores and choke dimensions, the most effective 12 and lightest 16 both have original 65/67 mm chambers, original forcing cones, tight chokes, etc. and appeared to have been used little before I got them. The heavier 16 has 90+ mm forcing cones and modified bores, including one totally choke-less barrel (apparently for round ball use) and has clearly been heavily used and often repaired -- one can think that it served its previous owners(s) well.

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Being a recoil wimp I like my 8 1/2 lb 12 ga over my 6 lb 20 ga. for skeet.

In the field it is the otherway around.

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We're all different when it comes to recoil. I don't have any problem shooting 100 targets with a sub-6# 12ga . . . but it's with my own 7/8 oz reloads. I'd have a serious problem were I running 1 1/8 oz target loads through that gun.

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