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A 1926 Philly Fox Sterlingworth,a chunk of wood and a can of Bondo...








32" #2 barrels, IM/IM, 8 lbs even. Over 22,000 rounds fired since completion 18 months ago....no detectable wear.

Well under $3,000 invested.

Not for sale.


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Zwego,

As I have no idea how to post a thread reference, I brought the thread concerning the Bo Whoop Cup to the top. Mr. Campbell seems to have turned out a gun that is more than just good looking. Congratulations Mike.

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Originally Posted By: KMcMichael
Don't rule out using your hunting gun with some light 7/8 oz loads. You do not need screw chokes,single trigger or ejectors for sporting, however ejectors are nice.

I shoot at least a thousand rounds a year with my 12 ga Arrieta w light loads.

I have a sterlingworth that I tried to use for targets even though it is heavy, the low stock beats me to death.

As of late I have shot my SXS better than my K-80


Ditto!

I quit trying to put together a SxS "clays" gun when I realized I always did my best at clays with my light hunting SxS using light loads.

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With 3,000 to 4,000 to spend you could take a SKB model 100 or a 150 and restok it and have the frame case colored. Add a leather covered pad and you have a nice looking gun that has a great reptuation for staying sound for a long time. I did this to a model 150 and have a total of 1750.00 invested in it. I did a lot of the work myself but it is a nice looker now.

I just bought a model 100 to customize for my son-in-law.

Just my 2 cents.

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Again, thanks for the replies and input.
I do like the Fox and the excellent wood work. I had considered using a Sterlingworth as a platform for this gun but had moved away from that idea for two reasons, a concern over longevity with an older gun (obviously not the case with the gun shown) and my preference for a single trigger. Which generally brought me back to the BSS and a similar redo to the Fox or the other BSS mentioned. What I am weighing is the cost of doing this work, which should be in the price range I am looking for, vs. the “out of the box” RBL. As I noted earlier, I would like to be able to get out “cost neutral” or if I put in $3-4000 to be able to at least recoup the money. Although I can build a lovely shooter, which may be what I end up doing, I do not have something that I can turn over for what I have invested. So far, I have been fortunate to have guns (new and “used”) that I can do that with. Regarding shooting an “as is” field SxS, I can do that and have - but find that I do not generally shoot them as well as a dedicated target gun. While I would not want to carry a 8 lb gun around in the field, my Arrizabalaga (6-¼ lbs) or my Parker are much more difficult to control at target games. I can shoot mid 20s with them at skeet but it is work and the recoil is noticeable.
So, my leaning is still toward the RBL or the BSS upgrade (knowing I will likely not get a return for this work).
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Nice job Mike.

All considered Zwego, your BSS idea comes closest to getting you out whole after campaigning. Parts are available, lots of smiths familiar with the gun, hell for stout. Cost neutral is another complexity of course.

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Clapper...& of course, I agree with your opinion that spending lots of cash in changing a vintage Gun into what it isn't is a bad idea.
The ones I'm talking about are kinda target guns, just 70 odd years old.Modern high shooting stocks ...but you only get two chokes!
I had a nearly "New"1926 Francotte 20e from , factory vent rib,32" bbls...8lb 6oz....%95 condition bought from dear ol'Owleye.
I'd defy anyone to say that wasn't a purpose built modern target buster, if they saw it..awesom.
To much Gun for me though.
Each to own way
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Mine was way nicer...Francotte 20e Live Bird Gun.but both about around same age I think
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Zwego:

I spent much of last year trying to find a platform to build a SxS sporting gun. I found a Fox A Grade with 30" perfect bbls, and modern stock dimensions in terrific shape. With a period Silver's Pad, the LOP = 15", with DOC = 1 1/2 and D@H = 2 3/8. It has some cast-off, I can't recall the heel and toe measurements. At roughly 7 1/2 lbs it's heavy enough to attenuate recoil. The chambers were lengthened to accomodate modern 2 3/4" shells and I had Briley steel screw-in chokes installed. The guns is sound, strong and dependable. It does have double triggers, but even if you had Turnbull install a Miller single trigger you would still be well within or below your target cost. If you would like to talk more about the gun, please contact me at tkline@mhcable.com.

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I have been shooting my 16 Gauge RBL at clays and have not found the smooth rib to be an issue. I had planned to use an aftermarket rib if it was an 'issue' but that has not been the
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IMHO the 12 gauge RBL would be you best choice. New steel and close tolerances. The forearm lug has been inproved over the SKB version, and the RBL should prove to be a good performer.


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