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Is it true, as I've read a few places, that a shooter tends to need a bit longer length of pull for a gun with a straight grip than he does for one with a pistol grip? Or is this just an old-shooter's tale?

True. But magnitude is individual. Semi-PG, like POW, minimizes the effect. A thick (palm swell) and tightly curved PG accentuates the difference.

OTOH, LOP is not critical for all shooters.

Sam

Why?

I've been sitting here playing virtual Rudy Etchen vs. straithand for ten minutes. It could be that a straithand maximizes the length of the palm and puts the T-phalange in a line continuous with that of the forearm bones . . . or maybe the moon has to be in the Seventh House? Does tend to work out for me, I think, as I "tolerate" long LOPs better on stocks with open semi-pistol or strait grips. Not sure what I "need". I don't hit everything so I guess whateer it is, I need some more of it.

jack

Yes - I find that I need about 3/4" to 1" more with straight grip stock, all else equal.

Rotate your hand in mid-air in a mock grip from pistol to straight...it brings the bottom of your hand back and puts more of the "drumstick" of your thumb on top of the stock closer to your face. How much so would depend on what you started with and where you ended up, as noted above.

"Tends to need "dont make it an absolute need.
Where is your thumb bone in relation to your nose?
What are your comb dimensions/same as the gun?

Ill say LOP is less critical with str8 hand grip
because there is no set place to put your hand as with pistol grips,and PG`s would definately dictate how the LOP feels
to you.

No difference. I have both straight and pistol grip guns from 14 1/4" to 15" and I find no difference in relationship of the type of grip to the LOP. My longest (Grulla Pigeon gun)and shortest (Parker Repro) stocks are both PG. Whatever feels good that you can shoot well.
Joe

This is human anatomy 101, and not debatable. Whether you are Shaquille O'neal or Quasimoto the straight grip places the hand in a greater degree of ulnar deviation than does the typical pistol grip. This rotation necessarily gives the 2nd finger greater reach. This result must obtain unless the triggering hand merely lies alongside, and is not allowed to even slightly grasp, the grip area. I have not seen such foolishness described by any author - though it seems like a great way to get one's knuckle rapped in recoil.

Whether this greater reach translates as a significantly greater required/desired LOP can certainly be debated.

Sam

Ulnar deviation? Does that mean that the ulna is in sheer with the radius and the bony offset greatest when grabbing unhafted sticks in an attempt to part the Jordan . . . or shoot as the English do?

jack