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If anyone has any comments or questions -- particularly on the ultra-rare O/U -- please post them and I will attempt to address them in the article, space considerations and all that considered.
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Vic, I think at least 6 unfinished Webley and or Scott over/unders were sold to Hoffman Arms in the 1920s and finished up by them. I believe they sold sxs unfinished guns in both boxlock and and sidelock to Hoffman, too. Most of those were engraved by Rudolph Kornbrath. I am not sure of the engravers for Hoffman on the over/unders.
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Great tip, Daryl. Thanks. Do you know if these Hoffman guns were boxlock O/Us or some variation? The O/U gun pictured here is a true sidelock, if of a simplified design. Thanks again.
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Vic, I cannot remember if they were all the same. They were very "thick actions" . You might get info from M. Hallowell or Mike Petrov as they are familiar with those guns.
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Tip much appreciated, Daryl. If anyone else has insights into Scott O/Us it would be great to know. I think I will make that the focus, as they are apparently so rare and under-reported on.
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Hello Barry,
Could one deduct from the checkering on the sxs that it has been re-stocked?
Very nice guns but don't like that style of checkering on the grip. Not English
in my view.
Thanks for sharing the pictures.
JC Pattern is typical for Imperial Premiere. They differed from most English guns.
"Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder."
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Re; Gunbroker,post.
This Scott gun is I believe, their "Excellentia Triplex" model, produced from 1884-1890. This gun is pictured in the booklet," The History of W.C.Scott Gunmakers."by J.Crawford and P.Whatley see page 15. The same gun is identified in the book,"The Birmingham Gunmakers,"page 115 by Douglas Tate. I have the identical gun except in 12G, and yes it dose have a gold shield in the stock.This feature was not limited to Scott,s "Premiere" series of guns.
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JayCee, The Owner had a "WellKnown and very Experienced" Gunsmith"Freshen-Up" the all Original Chequering on both Guns when he did a "Strip and Clean" several years ago, We will put all the details with'Letter-Headed Invoices" in the artical.I had a short conversation with Vic, to-day....Its off the 'Back-Burner"! He has all my Photos of the 2 Guns,( The Naked-Gun photos are really Good')...CC/DT.
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Vic have you written for whatever factory records exist to confirm they match the correspondence?
Mike
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Vic;
Telephone Jack Rowe at 580-233-5042. He has information about the Hoffman/Webley & Scott OU that that would be of interest to you. Let the phone ring as Jack is a bit slow in getting to the telephone these days, due to his parkinson disease.
Regards;
Bushveld
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