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Check out this real early hammerless Purdey:

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=136393908


This has to be one of the first hammerless guns they made on the Beesley patent.

Check out those locks. And it's a flat back. Unusual. Too bad about the Miller.

Compare it to this Purdey:

http://www.matchedpairs.com/~mpadmin/guns_images/300_3.jpg

Interesting gun.

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Selling the name not the gun. No mention of the sleeve job. No pictures of the flats so the buyer might learn what it should be, if in proof. Agree about the loss of the trigger.

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Sufferin' catfish, but it's a Purdey ol'sods!
Remember...we buy the name.
Like dating an ex-beauty queen, or retired washwoman.
Who wants a pristine whodunit and post, "it's just as good as."

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At the proper price point, I would be much more concerned about the originality of the barrels than the trigger, which probably works just fine.

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Odd, as Beesley's patent was 1880 and Purdeys had left 314 1/2 Oxford Street in 1877. I would be wanting to ask a few questions on this one. Lagopus.....

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Yeah, I'm not sure about it being on a Beesley now.

I'm trying to learn more. I'll report back with any findings.

8b - the Miller may work fine, but it's like buying a Rolls Royce with a Chevy drive train crammed into it.

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At the price this gun should sell for, I won't mind the Miller trigger. I wish I were close enough to drop over and inspect and measure the barrels and document the serial number. A non ejector Purdey without a self opener is, in my opinion, the ideal Purdey. Greg Martin sold one a few years back that was of similar features, also claimed to be a Beesley action but probably wasn't. I don't remember whether it had the flat back lock plate. Now that I remember, the Greg Martin gun was an early underlever. Neither of these early hammerless guns is discussed in detail in the book.

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That ridiculous recoil pad would turn me off a lot more than the single trigger.

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According to Purdey records their first hammerless gun was number 10106 and tested on 26th. September 1877. Action type not recorded but may have been on a Gibbs and Pitt action. As they left the 314 1/2 Oxford St. address that same year I would be doubtful as to its authenticity without contacting Purdeys. I have only ever seen hammer action emanating from that premises. Lagopus.....

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Originally Posted By: lagopus
Odd, as Beesley's patent was 1880 and Purdeys had left 314 1/2 Oxford Street in 1877. I would be wanting to ask a few questions on this one. Lagopus.....


Lagopus, could the gun have been built on Beesely's design before the patent was approved and awarded? When did Beesely approach Purdey with his offer to make the spring opening system? If anyone had Donald Dallas' book it should be in there.

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