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As I mentioned in another post, our club recently went to a token system at our skeet range and on two of our traps. In order to shoot, you have to put in a token, which is sold at the clubhouse. If you are a member you can buy them for $3.75. If you aren't, then you can buy them for $5.00. Then you stick them into a machine, like at the car wash, and you get 27 targets for a round of trap or skeet. The two extra are for breakage. Up to six people can shoot at the same time at skeet and five at trap. The manager is trying to cut down the costs of shooting, and the token system should cut down on theft. Plus it will cut back on personnel at the club. I have heard of other clubs in the area are using them. Does your club use the token system? If so how is it doing?

Our machines have electronic counters....That place sounds like a quarter car wash.

We have the Briley coin system at the Spokane Gun Club. $4 per coin or 20 for $75. For the big ATA trap shoots the place is packed and all to spots in the RV park are booked years in advance. For the two NSSA skeet shoots a year one hardly notices a difference from a nomal day the club is open.

How much does it cost to install such a system? Seems like you'd have to stop a lot of walkaways before you paid for the system

What the tokens stop best are the shooters who seem to always have 30 shells in every box. You have seen them. They stand on a station and shoot two or three extra birds after a miss and repeat this one or two time a round. No harm in that, but then they shoot the rest of the round. So they get 25 birds plus two, three, four or more extra birds. Same guys want to clear the machine after every broken bird thrown. It is practice people, just shoot.

It takes 30 birds minimum to get the through a round with these shooters. Talk about a 20% cost increase for the club. So this system eliminates all these free birds. You get 27 and then you are done. Shoot them up on the first two stations if you want.

I shoot broken birds, they are different and more fun. Plus it save the club a dime. Slow pulls are fun to get and try to shoot. Better yet get a deaf puller that gives you a fast pull. That will test your ability to track down a bird. It is a game be safe and have fun.

real sportsmen shoot cripples. Broken birds are fun, if you are good try to get the pieces that are left.

We don't have to shoot broken birds. We don't have to shoot slow pulls. They have to fix the broken bird problem if they want to keep the token system in place, and you don't let the slow pull people have the button. Otherwise, the token system somewhat eliminates the thieves and the forgetful shooters. My club has had to go to the Briley system because of these people. It doesn't matter how much it costs if it puts all of us on an equal footing for cost per round. I'm about tired of guys who have to look at a bird and the same idiots who have to clear the trap after a broken bird. Don't they realize that this is just practice and this is their club? To be honest, some of these guys are my best friends, but they aren't thinking clearly when they throw a bird that they are not shooting at. In International Skeet, you get to look at one bird from each trap at 9:00 AM. If you want to look at birds, you have to be there at 9:00 AM, end of story. From that time forward, you shoot at the first high one you see, and it is scored, lost or dead.

Our club is an honor system. You record your targets and place the money in a safe. We do police it pretty closely with no tolerance.In fact a new member was recently dismissed for stealing targets.
The guys I shoot with have one creedo "If it flies it dies" so broken targets are just another challenge. I generally throw in a few bucks for the guys that just gotta "see a bird" or for birds that are broken.
Tournaments follow normal guidelines of course.

Our system has electronic counters. You get 27 targets for each token. Two are for breakage. You are not supposed to shoot the two extra targets when you shoot unless you need them. We were having a lot of drive offs for years. I personnally saw five people last Spring shoot a round of skeet and drive off. And like KY Jon said, you have the people who want to shoot extra targets all the time. Then of course you have the people who shoot trap with the voice activated speakers who want to stand and scream at each other while they are shooting and all the time birds keep flying out into the field- not being shot at. The token system puts a stop to that, too. Ours seems to work well. It just took a while for it to catch on. I remember a few years ago when everyone complained about the voice activated speaker system and said that it would never work either. But it has really caught on. With the token system you can go out to the club, even if no one is there and if you already have tokens, all you have to do is put it in the box and you can shoot a round of trap. With the skeet, you have to have someone to pull for you. On the days that the clubhouse is open, we do have a button/box that you can use for only one person. It has a delay switch, so all you have to do is push the button and wait five seconds and then it throws a target. But, our main concern was theft and the token system should correct that problem.

Jimmy, do you have the Briley system? We are testing the Briley box for the first time tomorrow morning. I hope it solves all of our problems. We not only have the Briley token system, we can audit the system with the counters on the Superstar machines.