S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums10
Topics38,445
Posts544,832
Members14,406
|
Most Online1,258 Mar 29th, 2024
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 4
Boxlock
|
OP
Boxlock
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 4 |
I am wanting to identitfy an old double barrel my grandfather purchased in the 1920's. It has not been seen since the late 1930's, but my father can remember a few things about it. It was hammerless, had auto ejectors, 32" full/mod barrels, engraved with ducks or pheasants, and 2 triggers. I do have a photo of the bottom of the gun while it was leaning against a tree. Another photo shows a leg-o-mutton case. He lived in southern Illinois and probably nevered traveled outside of this area. My Father also said there was no brand name on it, but the barrels said Krupp. I tried to attach the photo, but i'm not sure it will up load. If you have any ideas I would greatly appriciate the help
Last edited by Walnut Bird; 12/14/09 07:01 PM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114 |
Looks like a violation of the various Federal laws protecting accipiters- why would anyone want their foto taken with a dead hawk, owl, or Eagle? Our DNR closed a public access marsh to All hunting or trapping to protect a pair of Bald Eagles-- The shotgun looks like a Crescent or Knickerbocker- how it got Krupp barrels, which the Krauts cut off to American gunmakers after they sunk the Lusitania in 1916 (so figure that one, ey??) beats me--
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 9,741 Likes: 743
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 9,741 Likes: 743 |
Dude, he didn't say Grandpa bought the gun new in the 1920s, just he bought it then. Further, there was a time when taking a hawk or an owl was actually encouraged by various fish and game departments, as they had bounties on them. Maybe one of the experts shall speak, but, with 32" barrels, that semi-pistol and the shape of the bottom of the frame, I'd guess a Baker. I can't get very much from the photo.
Best, Ted
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 4
Boxlock
|
OP
Boxlock
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 4 |
Thanks Ted, I was hoping the very pointed forearm might be a key to this puzzle
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 448 Likes: 4
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 448 Likes: 4 |
I had a great uncle who was a game warden in Northern IL. in the years prior to WWII. I remember him telling me that hawks and owls were not protected back then.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,983
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,983 |
Many hawks and owls were considered varmints long after WWII. Hawks should still be. Here in Utah, there seem to be more hawks than game birds. Guess why!
> Jim Legg <
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,935
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,935 |
That bird is probably just a skinny turkey...those were the Depression days, you know.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 296
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 296 |
gun kinda looks like an Elsie... has a "ribbed" action. But who knows, could be anything, my guess: It's definately not an 870!
Double guns and English Setters
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 188
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 188 |
It looks like a young Red-Tailed Hawk to me. Without looking it up, I don't know if they were common to Illinois back then. My best friend growing up in the 70's had a stuffed one his grandmother shot while "protecting her chickens." She might very well have complained about all the rats, snakes, and gophers terrorizing their homestead too. Lou M.
If it weren't for the wonder of electricity, you'd be reading this post by candle light!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 |
fOx'e they weren't protected untill the late 1960's....I thought you were an old hunter ?
|
|
|
|
|