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I had full faith in the craftsmen of Suhl to have a deep talent pool. "WB" must have retired circa Sauer #186309 as "FB" appears on Sauer Meisterwerk #179703. This hints that the high end frames were sourced to the "B" family and Barthelmes is about the only "B" family with a F. & a W. There was a Fritz Barthelmes who was born in 1899 and was the designer of the P.38 Walther but I'd hedge my bets on Franz or Friedrich Theodor Barthelmes, with more weight toward Franz and I'd bet there were 2 generations of Franz. Of course there's other Zella Saint Blasii "B"s like Bauer, Walter Böhme but Bauer was mainly pistols and Böhme was a retail outlet.

If anyone has GGCA #33, Summer 2007, page 23 there's a Johann Jakob Reeb that may have been sourced from Sauer. I sure would like to see pics of the flats and watertable.

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First off Kudos to Clay to provide the requested photos. A couple of random thoughts. I do not see a proof date on the barrel flats, The "Made in Prussia" and the spelling of the word "Son" defines this piece as destined for United States/N.America export. (The single large Crown shown on the barrel flats is also somewhat characteristic of Sauer export guns bound for the U.S./North American Market) It would be interesting to See if Griffen and Howe has this Sauer S/N in their record books and what their record might show about the order. Another Sauer mystery likely never to be solved. Jeff

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If anyone sees this W. Foerster at Safari Outfitter's table at the Southern SxS, I'd be interested if there are any maker's marks. A pic would be great but that is asking a lot.

Sauer stamped


Oscar/Otto Geyger with overhanging and intercepting scears.

Bernhard Merkel, or some other Suhl craftsman, made quite a few of these type examples

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