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Re: Found my first dangerous low-numbered 1903. Grenadier #190991 06/02/10 11:53 AM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,881 Alaska Michael Petrov OP Sidelock
OP Michael Petrov Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,881 Alaska	Originally Posted By: Grenadier The Marines were less trusting and had all of theirs re-heat treated. I never knew that the Marines had a single rifle re-heat treated, can you you quote a source for that information? MP Sadly Deceased as of 2/17/2014

Re: Found my first dangerous low-numbered 1903. Michael Petrov #191011 06/02/10 03:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 37 God's Country, USA Grenadier Sidelock
Grenadier Sidelock Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 37 God's Country, USA	Sorry, my mistake. Not re-heated. Instead, the Marines had the Hatcher holes drilled into the receivers of their guns "to cut the incidence of burst receivers". Quote: General Julian Hatcher, then a young ordnance officer suggested drilling a hole in the left side of the receiver as a gas relief port to cut the incidence of burst receivers. While this was generally ignored by the Army, the Marine Corps took the suggestion to heart and many of the Marine Corps low numbered '03s of the era will be found with the so called "Hatcher Hole" in the left side of the receiver. After W.W.I, the Marines solved the "low number gun problem" by rebarreling them when sent back for refit, drilling the Hatcher Hole and reissuing them with instructions that they were not to be used for firing rifle grenades. The high numbered guns are extremely strong and never experienced any problems. ~

Re: Found my first dangerous low-numbered 1903. Grenadier #191088 06/02/10 11:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,881 Alaska Michael Petrov OP Sidelock
OP Michael Petrov Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,881 Alaska	I still have a few low-number actions that I would not object to trying some different experiments on. I'm not sure what else to do that would tell us anything new. I've tried the failed case but might try it in another way. What if I annealed the head of a case until it was dead soft so it would flow, might the pressure get a bit higher before it ruptured? After the one action squirted out two 8mm bullets I was at a loss. When I blew up a Krag and helped on a trapdoor I learned a lot about how strong and what these old rifles will take. I'm open to suggestions! MP Sadly Deceased as of 2/17/2014

Re: Found my first dangerous low-numbered 1903. Michael Petrov #191095 06/03/10 12:38 AM
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,205 The Republic of Texas Don Moody Sidelock
Don Moody Sidelock Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,205 The Republic of Texas	I say just shoot and enjoy it with standard ammo. No experiments. Ole Cowboy

Re: Found my first dangerous low-numbered 1903. Don Moody #191146 06/03/10 01:42 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,881 Alaska Michael Petrov OP Sidelock
OP Michael Petrov Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,881 Alaska	Originally Posted By: Don Moody I say just shoot and enjoy it with standard ammo. No experiments. Don, I think you misunderstand what I want to do. I have no intention of playing around with any sporter. I have several loose low-number actions, one is a real dog and no loss if I wreck it. I would hate to think that anyone thought I was up here experimenting with trying to blowup say Townsend Whelen's Wundhammer MP Sadly Deceased as of 2/17/2014

Re: Found my first dangerous low-numbered 1903. Michael Petrov #191170 06/03/10 04:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 282 texraid Sidelock
texraid Sidelock Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 282	Originally Posted By: Michael Petrov I still have a few low-number actions that I would not object to trying some different experiments on. I'm open to suggestions! Michael, I can't help jumping into this fray. You and I have discussed the LN debate before and you have done due diligence on research in trying to duplicate a failure. I too am one who believes the odds are riskier on urban freeways/streets than shooting one. However, if you did succeed I am afraid you would just lend credence to Bayesian probability. Art

Re: Found my first dangerous low-numbered 1903. texraid #191171 06/03/10 04:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,724 Likes: 417 Iowa BrentD, Prof Sidelock
BrentD, Prof Sidelock Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,724 Likes: 417 Iowa	Baysian? What is the current prior? _________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan)

Re: Found my first dangerous low-numbered 1903. BrentD, Prof #191181 06/03/10 05:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 282 texraid Sidelock
texraid Sidelock Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 282	I interpret Hatcher's data as the prior and if Michael succeeded in getting one to fail he could possibly introduce new data. But then......what do I know I'm not a probalist? I'm just not in the sky is falling camp. Last edited by texraid; 06/03/10 06:00 PM.

Re: Found my first dangerous low-numbered 1903. texraid #191192 06/03/10 07:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 674 Likes: 13 Annapolis, Md Gary D. Sidelock
Gary D. Sidelock Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 674 Likes: 13 Annapolis, Md	Who's on first base?

Re: Found my first dangerous low-numbered 1903. Michael Petrov #191202 06/03/10 08:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,205 The Republic of Texas Don Moody Sidelock
Don Moody Sidelock Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,205 The Republic of Texas	What. Ole Cowboy

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