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I am considering the the purchase of a Perugina & Visini Maestro for a sporting clays gun and have not heard a lot about them. Three questions: (1) any feedback on P&G guns would be appreciated; (2) is it true that P&G makes all or some of the Purdey over and unders; and (3) P&G pros and cons versus similarly priced Perazzis. Thanks.

p&v is good choice for someone who likes something different and can afford to indulge in such activity. it's sort of like buying quality shirt w/o little polo player on a hoarse. i never buy them as there are better articles of clothing out there. selling p&v gun hombre is likely to take a beating unless they bought it used for much less then price of a new one.

Shotgun Journal did an episode on Perugini & Visini. Click on the link below to watch the show.

http://www.myoutdoortv.com/hunting/shotgun-journal/perugini-and-visini-fine-gun-makers

Bruce Scott ended up ordering an o/u after visiting the factory.


Purdey still makes the Woodward O/U in house. P&V only builds the Purdey Sporter. I think they stock them as well. The barreled and stocked actions are then sent to Purdey for engraving, checkering, and finishing. I believe the Purdey Sporter is a modified Perazzi action... as are the P&G guns.

Purdey Woodward Sidelock O/U


Purdey Sporter




Adam

There is a rather detailed report of the week I spent at the Perugini & Visini workshops in 2003 published in my book Double Guns and Custom Gunsmithing.

Where you came up with the notion of any P&V and Purdey connection is a mystery to me. I surely wasn't the case in 2003 nor have I hear about it since.
My best advice about any Italian (or imported) gun is to find out about service in this country. As for comparisons, all I have is personal preference I don't imagine to be all that important.
Best,
Steve

VERY Interesting, unfortunately my interent connection or the vidio quit after 4:30 so I don't know any more than I did before. (maybe they want me to join?)

I saw Silvio Ferrera in Las Vegas last January, he's a great guy a good friend and has been the defacto North American spokesman for P&V for decades. I presume that engraver they were about to mention was Claudio Tomasoni, a skilled artisan and quite a character.

So I still don't know about any connection??

Steven,

Here are some clips from an article from Fieldsports Magazine about the new Purdey Sporter.


"One of the great names in gunmaking has added an important new model to its range with the launch of the Purdey Sporter. Moreover the gun is less than half the price of a bespoke model and is being produced in a joint venture with specialist Italian gunmakers Perugini & Visini."


I stand corrected on my original statement. I said that P&V built the action, barrels, and stock. But apparently, the action is built by Purdey then barrel and stocks are built and fitted by P&V....

"Having come up with the design, the Italian involvement extends solely to barrel fitting and stocking. The gun itself is completely engineered by Purdey’s in-house design team so all parts, other than barrels and stocks are made in Purdey’s own CNC machine shop. Assembly, barrel fitting and stocking will be undertaken in Italy by P&V, the guns returning to the Purdey Hammersmith factory for regulating, finishing and London proofing."


You can read the rest of the article here...
http://www.fieldsportsmagazine.com/articles_gear_purdeys_baby.php

Adam

I received an email from Silvio Ferrera this evening pertaining to Perugini & Visini.
I quote Silvio Ferrera, " Vincenzo (Perugini) and Darko (Visini) have in fact been working with Purdey on the new PURDEY SPORTER model O/U. It is similar to the Maestro with some changes as per Purdey. The actions and monoblocs are manufactured in England and the gun is assembled in Italy to Purdey specs, including barrels and stocking by P & V, ultimate finishing and proofing in England. The end result has been a very nice handling and reliably functioning shotgun.
Darko and Vincenzo with the aid of a gentleman by the name of Steve Sidki, whom you may know (I do not), have set up a new co. by the name of "P & V - U.S.A." All sales and service of their products destined for the U.S. will be stateside and no longer Italy. "

That's reliable info to answer your question.
Best,
Steve

Thanks for the link Adam, very interesting but I have to say the proof reading on that article is even worse than mine!

The Sporter looks more like the original Boss design than the Perazzi.

A P&V would certainly be cool to have (not the Purdy things)but the utility of having a "production" gun like a Perazzi that has all the same attributes, namely Italian, is certainly attractive. I have Perazzis cuz they are simply super guns and I can afford the older ones. If something horrible happens like a part wearing out, it can be easily and relatively cheaply replaced. Fortunately over the last twenty years I have had only to replace three locking bars (needed when I got the guns) and one firing pin. When the firing pin broke I was just astounded! I simply could not believe that something had gone wrong. And that gun only had maybe 50-60K rounds thru it.

I would only suggest that if you plan to get the P&G, please get it the way you want it to start with. Please don't mutilate the barrels with aftermarket choke tubes and carve the stock to make it adjustable. Right now there is a set of Perazzi barrels for sale for $1300 that would be worth close to twice that if someone had not had Briley WTF chokes carved into an already Perazzi factory choked lower barrel. What a moron, and what a shame. But that's JMO of course. Your money, your gun.

Dr.WtS