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Subgauge Grants are rare. There are a few 16 ga. guns out there but most seem to have been early hammer guns. (A famous pair made for Victoria's heir just sold.) I have yet to see an intact 16 ga. "hammerless." I have seen a 20 gauge I thought made by another and finished by Grant but retained no information on it. Between about 1898 and 1912, Grant was regarded as amoung peers of the favored makers. Refinements to action dimensions and the gradual move away from some of the more anachronistic features make Grant shotguns of this period highly desireable in my opinion; with original barrels, they are sweet in the field.
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Subgauge Grants are rare. There are a few 16 ga. guns out there but most seem to have been early hammer guns. (A famous pair made for Victoria's heir just sold.) I have yet to see an intact 16 ga. "hammerless." I have seen a 20 gauge I thought made by another and finished by Grant but retained no information on it. Between about 1898 and 1912, Grant was regarded as amoung peers of the favored makers. Refinements to action dimensions and the gradual move away from some of the more anachronistic features make Grant shotguns of this period highly desireable in my opinion; with original barrels, they are sweet in the field. A friend of mine from Canada just received a 16 bore sidelever hammerless Grant with 30" damascus barrels. He bought it at a auction in England early in the summer and he just recently took the gun in. I'll see if he can't get some pictures to me and I'll post them here. Dustin
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Subgauge Grants are rare. There are a few 16 ga. guns out there but most seem to have been early hammer guns. (A famous pair made for Victoria's heir just sold.) I have yet to see an intact 16 ga. "hammerless." I have seen a 20 gauge I thought made by another and finished by Grant but retained no information on it. Between about 1898 and 1912, Grant was regarded as amoung peers of the favored makers. Refinements to action dimensions and the gradual move away from some of the more anachronistic features make Grant shotguns of this period highly desireable in my opinion; with original barrels, they are sweet in the field. Not too long ago Champlin had a Grant 20 gauge top lever hammerless sidelock that dated to around the late 1890's (if my memory serves me correctly). It did not take too long for someone to buy it.
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Diggory
Yes , by God , those Side Lever/SLE's are Smashin'!
I often haunt the AG&L site looking...
I might go for one of those Steel sleevers one O these days
Good luck to you with the whole thing
I bought a 1901 steel bbl Greener Hammer 12 Bore Pigeon Gun from Ken a few years ago
It was sleeved very well, had to look damn hard to see anything awry .
He said it had been cc'd by that famous St Ledger? guy.
Awesome blues n greens.
The Gun had a beaut' of a leather pad, but way to much Toe, when I took the pad of , I saw it was signed by Tony White.
Nice to see some Good Men worked on the Gun I love soooo much
Franc
When ad's say "SeamLess" sleeving, just how good does it get??
I hear Foster is the knees???
Ps, Dig..I'm from Somerset......Never ever heard the name Diggory,
where is it from???,,if you don't mind me askin'
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Diggory
When ad's say "SeamLess" sleeving, just how good does it get??
I hear Foster is the knees??? Franc, the "seamlessness" depends on the skill of the machinist and welder. If the sleeve is tightly fit to the monoblock, there will be very little seam showing on the breech face. If the sleeve is welded skillfully, the seam ground to match the monoblock size and contour, the polish of the sleeve matched to the monoblock, and the alloy of sleeve, monoblock, and weld metal such that bluing/blacking produces very similar color on all three, then the seam will be nearly invisible. In theory, if done perfectly, the seam would, indeed, be invisible.
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As Rocketman said. If the best job available is done, the barrel profile and the striking up along with the welding of the joint should flow perfectly. It is a mistake to skimp on the blacking as there are three different steels to match up and poor black will show.
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