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[quote=Dave K]Nope,
Goring purchased it from a shop in Hamburg before WWII,he had a lot of guns.
Like I said in a earlier post, I never saw a sporting one at auction(3 shotguns that I can recall) without his family crest,this S&W does not of course.I do recall a pistol that was his wifes getting auctioned off by James Julia and few years ago that did have it thou. [/quote-- Thanks- good info. What was his wife's gun that Julia's sold?


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I will try and find the pics Fox,here is his,or one of his double rifle drillings;
http://www.juliaauctions.com/auctions/catalog_detail_shots.asp?Details=39842&sale=288



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G÷ring's S&W .38 Spec. is serial number 642357 and was shipped on May 29, 1934 to "Peters Arms Co." of Hamburg. I saw the revolver in the early 1970s when visiting the West Point as a young man.

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Here ya go RWTF,
it was a Walther PPK ,of course !It was a gift,again of course !on her,Emmy's wedding day,and it does indeed have the Goring family crest.Of course Herman got what he deserved,but Emmy may well have received more then she deserved.

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Danke-- what a fine PPK (Polezi Pistole Kurz!! I wonder what the hammerdown price was on this, and what if any provenance came with it. Beautiful scroll work engraving, fine grips. I know the heavier Luger pistols have the big $ collector interest, but I think the pre-War Walthers were the best ever made- easier to shoot, better trigger pulls, well balanced- Thanks for posting this foto!!


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That's a early one,with the 90 degree safety and no loaded indicator.I have one (not engraved) like it,holster and two mags right from the GI who brought it back.

Looked back that Walther sold for $17825.00 at JJ's.


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Originally Posted By: Run With The Fox

Part of the same paranoia that affect Napoleon Bonaparte also affected Hitler- any as the Russians were closing in on Berlin, both Rommel and Himmler tried to escape undetected-- only Goebbels and his wife and children remained to die with Adolph and Eva in the bunker in Berlin-- sort of a Teutonic play on the old "rats deserting the sinking ship" scenario.

This is just conjecture, not based on fact--


You need to read up a bit on Rommel.

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Originally Posted By: Richard Saloom
Originally Posted By: Run With The Fox

Part of the same paranoia that affect Napoleon Bonaparte also affected Hitler- any as the Russians were closing in on Berlin, both Rommel and Himmler tried to escape undetected-- only Goebbels and his wife and children remained to die with Adolph and Eva in the bunker in Berlin-- sort of a Teutonic play on the old "rats deserting the sinking ship" scenario.

This is just conjecture, not based on fact--


You need to read up a bit on Rommel.
-- Hallo- Eine augen auf der adler herin- You are most correct sir- it was an error on my part, and I meant to write Goering and Himmler- FM Irwin Rommel chose to commit suicide rather than face a trail after the July attempt 1944 on Hitler & co. at Die Wolfschantz-- by doing this he was granted a State funeral and his wife and son Manfred Rommel were spared-

Manfred Rommel is often seen doing commentaries on the History channel when the topic is the third Reich-- I won a subscription to a WW11 history magazine (I was born in 1940) re: the great 1970 movie Patton- where Gen. Patton said "Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book" The book- Der Panzeren in Kreig- was written by Rommel's mentor- in 1933 Gen. Oberst (Colonel General) Hans Guiderian--Patton got his insight into tanks in WW1, and before that, mobilized warfare via Ford Model T's in Mexico after bandito Pancho Villa- Ole!!!


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RWTF: My Dad chased Pancho back and forth across the Rio Grande on horseback as an 18 year old with the 11th. Cavalry. He told me about the Model T's, Hupmobiles & Stanley Steamers that they employed as well. I have pictures and his spurs. In the 20's he sold Packards, Auburn, Cord & Duesenbergs.

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For God sake stop these silly talks!


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