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Re: Help! What am I looking at?
Boscan #229480 05/22/11 02:26 PM
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Google Ignatio Ugartachea and they result say's he started in 1922 . Is it possible that he spent time or trained in Belgium?
Re: Help! What am I looking at?
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Daryl,

Thank you for clarifying who took the picture and what kind of gun it is. The reason I posted that picture is because on another board, someone believed the the Ugartechea in question may have a similar self-opening mechanism to your Christophe.

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I might guess that the Christophe is made by Jules Bury with parts from Britte. The receiver is marked with a crown over JB.


I suspect that also the case --a very nice gun indeed! Would you mind posting some more pictures of the gun and tell us a little about it? Also, is it possible that your photograph made it into a recently released book written in French by Laurent Bedu and published in Paris in 2009 called "Platines, les plus beaux fusils du monde"? The original poster of your photo claims he scanned it from that book.

I am going to take another step and write Ugartechea about this most unusual gun.

David
Re: Help! What am I looking at?
Boscan #229549 05/23/11 05:45 AM
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Interesting that the new book has pilfered photos in it. I wonder about the content of the book and how many pictures were taken in the same way. Some time ago I contacted the author and attempted to buy a copy of the book. He failed to respond. I wonder why. I think the picture of the Christophe lock came from this BBS. The original is below.

Here are a few pictures of the Christophe. It is engraved and signed by Schoffeniels. Of course, the Christophe is a standard Holland style, and neither a self or assisted opener.










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Re: Help! What am I looking at?
Boscan #479307 05/01/17 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: David Dabaco
OWD,

One of the things that has always been of interest is why the Spanish have never built a true self-opening gun. Terry Wieland explains that the only true self-opening gun ever built in Spain was the AyA Senior. We have pictures of that gun and know that it exists. However, it has been rumored for a long time that Ugartechea also built a self-opener on the Beesley action. Supposedly Purdey sued both AyA and Ugartechea for making guns with a Beesley action and won. The court order against Ugartechea, again according to the legend, demanded that the recall and destroy all the guns built on a the Beesley action in imitation of Purdey. After years of rumor, finally a poster has run across a Ugartechea which appears to have a self-opening system like a Beesley. The gun is question is in these three pictures:



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