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I'm to lazy to look up the .33WP thread but have been trying to get another .33 mould. For the last couple years I've been using my .33-Pope mould and wanted to get a modern one to use.

The first mould I ordered was a disaster. Last winter I heard that David Mos was back making moulds so I gave him a try. I sent him some of the Pope bullets and got a mould from him. It seemed to cast good bullets once it was up to temperature but just takes a long time. Plus it weights three times what my Pope mould does. Why are modern moulds so big?

Off my soapbox and back to shooting. It was cool and light rain this AM perfect shooting weather, I like to shoot when the conditions are like that and I have the range to myself ;-).

First shot was a little low changed the scope and fired five from the fouler box which are .2 grain different than the keepers.

5-.830"


Next was the good bullets 5-.458"

Another five shots in .615", rain was picking up so I fired a ten shot @ .815".

Happy camper, fired up the rest of the 30-30's so I can pull the barrel off the 94-64.

Not much interest in Schuetzen around here. Would like to talk and share ideas with other plain-base lead guys. Gee, I just noticed I misspelled Mos and only three letters.

Went out yesterday and started at 200 yards. First group there was not even a breeze, dead calm. Fired one five-shot group. Wind picked up and everything went to heck. Next two were 1.66" and 1.75" so moved to 100 yards and tried a different lube.

Looking good there, Michael. Details on your rifle and load?

I was out with my Ruger No. 3 Schuetzen this morning. Nothing good to report...full case head separation on an older Starline 32-20 case about 1/2" from the head. Shot was about 2" low out of the 3/4" group at 100 yards. Came home & fully stripped out the action and cleaned powder fouling out. The Ruger is in .308" 32-20 with a 1-12" twist Remington Sendero contour barrel from Dan Pedersen, was testing fixed ammo using a plain base Lyman 311299, cast about 30-1 so it weighs about 217 gr. 12.4 gr Alliant 300MP, Rem 7 1/2 primer. Back out tomorrow!

David

The 33 1 6/10 WP is a 357 Maxim necked to .33 caliber, barrel by Ron Smith, Breech seated 1/16" ahead of the case, Federal 100 pistol primers and my own lube, 11grians of AA No.9 no wad. Bullet mix is 20-1 lead-tin, all the same weight, pan lubed.

At 100 yards I tried my old Alox-Beeswax lube,

0.665 for 5
0.480 5
0.390 5
0.675 5
0.670 8 of my foulers


What's going on with the head separation? I've had collapsed cases in my schuetzen rifles but not head separation.

32-20 brass is not noted for strength, even Starline. The gas laws are still in force. Pushing a 214 grain bullet down the barrel with a very small case will generate a lot of pressure, even if the load is relatively mild. David's bullet was designed with the .30-40 and .303 Brit in mind.

Nothing exciting to report today,

Tried my old Alox-Bwax lube and some older Pope and Bud Welsh bullets. I hope this is readable, first five at 200 yards then two at 100 yards.

Red is control group with stuff I know works.

6/13/11 50 1-5 AA#9 11 Fed 100 No 1/16" Mos 223.0 Alox 5 1.85
6/13/11 50 1-5 AA#9 11 Fed 100 No 1/16" Mos 223.0 Alox 5 1.66
6/13/11 50 1-5 AA#9 11 Fed 100 No 1/16" Mos 223.0 Alox 5 1.072
6/13/11 50 1-5 AA#9 11 Fed 100 No 1/16" Mos 223.0 Alox 5 1.73
6/13/11 50 1-5 AA#9 11 Fed 100 No 1/16" Mos 223.0 MP1 5 0.895
6/13/11 50 1-5 AA#9 11 Fed 100 No 1/16" Welsh 227.0 MP1 5 0.925
6/13/11 50 1-5 AA#9 11 Fed 100 No 1/16" Pope 218.6 Alox 5 0.457 1-30 Old bullets

True...and I'm using loads a little bit lighter than those intended for the .32 Miller Short.

That particular case had been reloaded about 45 times, it was from my original batch which had been retired, but grabbed in error when I went out the other day. Primer pockets are not as snug as the new batch, either.

David