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According to press reports the United Nations is trying to create a treaty to regulate the aquisition and movement of all conventional weapons,from pointed sticks to Aircraft Carriers!
Canadian Government representatives are trying to amend the the treaty to exclude sporting and hunting guns together with relevant ammunition.For once our government is on the right track!This is already proving to be a controversial/political issue in Canada.Just wondered what position was being taken by other countries; in particular, countries such as the U.S.A; U.K. Spain and Italy who are engaged in the manufacture/trade of sporting guns?

It's a false claim. http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp

An international treaty that supercedes the U.S. Constitution, yea right!! That will be the day!!

This comes up every once in a while and folk get all lathered up. It's false.

It does make you realize that a bill of rights, complete with a second amendment is a good thing though, no?


Best,
Ted

Depends, Ted, depends. Originalists may think so. You know how far that goes today.

You only have to go to the UN website to see that they are trying to get control of small arms in the hands of civilians all over the world. Seeing what is happening in 3rd world countries it is not surprising that they are concerned about the proliferation of small arms in untrained and unregulated hands.Where that leaves us in the "enlightened lands" I have no idea.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=7004

Friday, July 22, 2011

For nearly 20 years, the NRA has worked tirelessly to oppose any United Nations effort to undermine the constitutional rights of law-abiding American gun owners. The latest attempt by the U.N. and global gun banners to eliminate our Second Amendment freedoms is to include civilian arms in the current Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), which will be finalized next year.

In order for any treaty to take effect, however, it must be ratified by two-thirds of the U.S. Senate. To ensure that any ATT that includes civilian arms is dead on arrival in the Senate, the NRA has been working to get as many U.S. Senators as possible to publicly oppose any ATT that includes restrictions on civilian arms.

As of this morning, 51 members-- a majority--of the U.S. Senate have signed letters to President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton saying they will oppose any ATT that includes civilian firearms ownership. These strongly worded letters caution the President and Secretary of State to uphold the Constitution of the United States. As Senator Jerry Moran's letter warns, �(A)s the treaty process continues, we strongly encourage your administration to uphold our constitutional protections of civilian firearms ownership. These freedoms are non-negotiable, and we will oppose ratification of an Arms Trade Treaty presented to the Senate that in any way restricts the rights of law-abiding U.S. citizens to manufacture, assemble, possess, transfer or purchase firearms, ammunition and related items.�

Thanking the NRA for our long-standing work on this issue, Senator Moran remarked, "I appreciate the NRA's partnership on this important effort to defend the rights of American gun owners. I want to thank them for their active support in sending a strong message to the Obama Administration that our firearm freedoms are not negotiable."

As we have for nearly two decades, the NRA will continue to fight against any U.N. treaty that undermines the constitutional rights of American gun owners. These letters send a clear message to the international bureaucrats who want to eliminate our fundamental, individual right to keep and bear arms. Clearly, a U.N. ATT that includes civilian arms within its scope is not supported by the American people or their elected U.S. Senators. We are grateful to Senator Moran, Senator Jon Tester, and all members of the Senate who have chosen to stand on the side of America's 80 million gun owners in opposition to those who want to eliminate our freedoms. And thank you as well to those NRA members who contacted their Senators and encouraged them to support this critical effort.

Pete

It only depends if you don't have it, King. There exists a not-so-fine line between a "subject" and a "Citizen" also, usually not understood by either. Not until the stuff hits the fan, anyway.
The second amendment has become far less negotiable than it was once made out to be. That three of the judges appointed can't grasp that only points out that tar and feathers have gone out of fashion.
A pity, really.


Best,
Ted

It's still very dis-heartening that only 51 would sign the statement.

Maybe we should each contact our senators and ask them if they have signed it. If not; why not.

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