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Eley 2" 12 Gauge Vintage? #21920 01/24/07 11:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 803 WI Dick_dup1 OP Sidelock
OP Dick_dup1 Sidelock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 803 WI	Does anyone have an idea of the vintage of these shells. I am looking for some from 1939 or later to go into a period cartridge case I had built to accompany a matching Motor Case for a Brit 2" 12 gauge. Thanks for any help.-Dick Last edited by Dick_dup1; 01/24/07 11:12 AM.

Re: Eley 2" 12 Gauge Vintage? Dick_dup1 #21927 01/24/07 11:44 AM
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,111 Likes: 195 Maryland eightbore Sidelock
eightbore Sidelock Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,111 Likes: 195 Maryland	They don't look too awfully old. I have three boxes of 2" Eley in my collection and I don't think any of them are very old either. How do we tell? I have no idea. They are all very nice and would look great in your shell case. What kind of cartridge case did you have built? Who did it for you? What make is your 2" gun?

Re: Eley 2" 12 Gauge Vintage? eightbore #21932 01/24/07 12:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 803 WI Dick_dup1 OP Sidelock
OP Dick_dup1 Sidelock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 803 WI	Originally Posted By: eightbore They don't look too awfully old. I have three boxes of 2" Eley in my collection and I don't think any of them are very old either. How do we tell? I have no idea. They are all very nice and would look great in your shell case. What kind of cartridge case did you have built? Who did it for you? What make is your 2" gun? Case is a match to this Motor case. A retired opthamologist who is no longer making cases did the work. Gun is a Brit 2" branded Abercrombie & Fitch made for US sale and is actually shown in a 1939 A&F catalog I have. LOP is 14&1/4". Weight is 5# 7oz. Proofed in 1939. Last edited by Dick_dup1; 01/24/07 12:36 PM.

Re: Eley 2" 12 Gauge Vintage? Dick_dup1 #21943 01/24/07 02:45 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,688 Likes: 31 Midlands,England,Great Britain... Salopian Sidelock
Salopian Sidelock Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,688 Likes: 31 Midlands,England,Great Britain...	Dick, I will try and get down to Eley on Friday or give them a ring.Could you email me a photograph of the data printed on the carton please.Usually on the end flap. You have my email address.

Re: Eley 2" 12 Gauge Vintage? Dick_dup1 #21945 01/24/07 02:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 173 Likes: 8 Morristown, NJ Bob Beach Sidelock
Bob Beach Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 173 Likes: 8 Morristown, NJ	I have access to what appears to be an identical box of shells. On the bottom of the box the factory notice references the Gun Barrel Proof Act of 1950 so ours are at least newer that that date. Bob Beach

Re: Eley 2" 12 Gauge Vintage? Bob Beach #21954 01/24/07 04:05 PM
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400 Nitro Express Member Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 433 Lone Star State	There should be a packing code stamped on the flap or a piece of paper inside the box. That should give you the date. "Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder."

Re: Eley 2" 12 Gauge Vintage? 400 Nitro Express #21960 01/24/07 05:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 803 WI Dick_dup1 OP Sidelock
OP Dick_dup1 Sidelock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 803 WI	Otherside of box.

Re: Eley 2" 12 Gauge Vintage? Dick_dup1 #21965 01/24/07 05:21 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 264 Likes: 23 Elkhart Lake WI. Hugh Lomas Sidelock
Hugh Lomas Sidelock Joined: May 2003 Posts: 264 Likes: 23 Elkhart Lake WI.	I believe they are post 1970 by the reference to Imperial Metal Industries Witton. The IMI divis of ICI was formed in 1970 and divested from the ICI unit in 1977.You may wish to contact Kynamco in UK as they probably have the best Historical records of Eley Bros, Kynock Ammunition,Eley Kynock ICI, Eley Kynock IMI, Eley Hawk etc. Hugh Lomas, H.G.Lomas Gunmakers Inc. 920 876 3745

Re: Eley 2" 12 Gauge Vintage? Hugh Lomas #22007 01/24/07 11:16 PM
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400 Nitro Express Member Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 433 Lone Star State	No, the Metals Division of ICI was renamed IMI Ltd and incorporated as a sub in 1962, not 1970. "Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder."

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