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How L. Brown defines it is always how I saw it.
But were they actually guns made on the side?
Seems like a good way to get the same quality without having to pay for the name.

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All the German mechanics with which I have spoken refer to the "no-name" sporting arms as trade guns; guns made by the trade for the gun trade. I think few concerns made every component inhouse, if any. It may be semantics, but there weren't any guilds that made guns for the trade or that took a master's example and peddled it. It's all folklore, hype and used as a marketing ploy for resale. Guilds took care of their own, providing for the widows and children of master gunsmiths. The guild was a guardian of the craft as well as a guardian of those within the craft. It was up to the individual craftsman for the sourcing & the marketing.

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I thought I had seen some big bore drilling tradeguns but I assume the one in the book on the left to be a 16 bore and the real drilling in the center is considerably larger. I'm curious as to the Russian text and assume Geno would have known all the answers.




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And I always thought a guild gun was kind of like a Johnny Cash Cadillac...


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I once had a bird in a "guild"(ed) cage....


Dodging lions and wasting time.....
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Some look a bit more put together than JC's "One Piece at a Time" Caddie. Here is a 16 ga. German trade gun, 29.5" barrels, weighing 6lbs which was made around 1920. No serial number on the action.



Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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Oh my, that is one nice looking gun.

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