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GB # 269816042 16ga sxs. Very light and unique. Any info you gentleman might have would be great (NO comments from Builder on the short barrels!!!! LOL) Thanks Folks, Bob
Last edited by Doublefan; 01/23/12 10:43 AM. Reason: info added
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It seems like I've seen that "swoop" on the back of the action somewhere around here lately, but I can't remember the name of the maker. It was a pretty recent thread though.
I have a light Manufrance Ideal 16ga with those 24" barrels; they're hard to shoot. Mine is very tightly choked but usable with Polywad vintager type spreader loads. This one sounds like someone has already opened the chokes. Nice looking birdgun...Geo
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I don't understand - seller says it's NOT chambered for 2 3/4 - what's it chambered for or is this a guessing game? Or am I missing something?
It's choked appropriately for the barrel length and would be very nice in a New England thicket!
The pix are inadequate - I would like to see decent in-focus pictures of the top of the barrels and the barrel flats.
Who is the maker? Why not say so? Am I again missing something?
Is the front trigger articulated? What are the proofs? Bushed strikers? What's the condition of the bores??? WHAT IS THE CHAMBER LENGTH???
The stock is plain but the grain is very straight and strong.
It really is pretty and has a lethal combination of barrel and chokes for the right situations.
My guess is that it won't sell at this price because the seller hasn't provided decent info re maker etc. Also the short barrels are currently out of flavor except to those who use them (!) and command a lower price on the market.
Just my personal opinion but this one might be a real sleeper if you are willing to work with the short barrels. Personally, I would look into it but I really don't need another shotgun.
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No name French guns tend to take a hit in the price dept. I think Gnomon has pretty much covered what we don't know about this one, which is a bunch. Pretty unique gun and might be great for grouse and woodcock--but too many unknowns.
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Vey nice gun, if it feels good between the hands, and one likes it, what more do you need?
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Not hard at all, Joseph. I think the French ought to stay with doing what they know best: Fancy-Schmancy wines, rich food buried in even richer sauces, and assorted sexual perversions- and leave building fine side-by-side shotguns to other European Countries (Germany gets my nod- they build their guns to last forever) and to what extend the olde British bespoke gun trade (including Scotland) makes all of its own gun parts..
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Geo. Newbern, I believe you're thinking of the thread my post started regarding W J Jeffery boxlocks made by G Leonard if they've got a "bow-back" action.
I believe one pic was sent in as an example. I'm still trying to getmy wife to help me post pics I've got about a hundred I promised over the years back-logged.
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I would "Assume" the chambers are the standard 65mm (approx 2 9/16"). Nice way of saying it was not meant for US SAAMI shells from your local X-Mart.
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Agree with Miller that the chambers are likely short. Not always marked on French guns. Some of them did have pretty stout double (and occasionally triple) proof, but they're also often pretty light, and this one is really light. Another reason not to use the Wally World stuff in this gun, even if it has the heavier proofs. The gun would probably be OK, but it'd kick the snot out of you.
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