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Subgauge tubes, even the short tubes, will noticeably affect handling. If you have a fairly flexible shooting style, can switch guns without a hitch, you might even find you like the added weight for range work.
As already noted, the truly economical alternative is a 3/4 oz 20. You can obtain factory loaded weenies, or load them yourself very easily. The disadvantage is ineligibility for 28 ga events.
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How about having CSMC fit a set of 28 ga. barrels? Not cheap, but it would add a lot more to the overall value of the gun. About $7500 for a second set of barrels from CSMC, $700 for Briley sub-gauge tubes. Loading down 3/4 oz. yellow "Weenies"... priceless.
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I have a sporting clays gun, 29-1/2" barrels, and Briley tubes in three subgauges. They are the ultimate ultralight tubes.
When the tubes are in the gun balances like a pig on a snow shovel.
Fine for premount.
Best,
Mike
Last edited by AmarilloMike; 02/12/12 09:28 PM.
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3/4 load in the yellow hull.
but if you must,try the briley sidekick subgage,they`ll add only about 4-5 ounces right at the hingepin.and you may get some barrel scrub which I like at skeet distances,but will filthy the bore.
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Bob congratulations on the new gun. I am queer for light guns so don't ever leave that one alone with me. The Foxes are great guns and my friend Gary shows up with a CSMC 20 gauge at the Vintager shoot in Raton, NM. Wonderful well built guns. I think I can imagine how thrilled you are. I forgot to mention how much I think of the Foxes and how much I like your model when I posted about the Briley tubes.
I have a Philadelphia XE in 16 gauge but it is heavier than my ideal at 6 lbs 6 oz. But I still like it very much.
Best,
Mike
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I'll add one more thought in this debate--you may find that Briley will not be able to put full length 28 bore tubes in your gun. I say that because your gun is bored tight--mod and full. There is just not enough bore diameter to accomplish the task and IF it is possible w/o altering the factory chokes--the 28 ga. tubes will be straight cylinder or skeet bore. You will not be able to have choke tubes in the 28 inserts. I love the 28 bore, but have to agree with the majority--enjoy this sweet gun as is.........
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Bob
Congratulations on a great gun. Im envious.
Me? I hate tubes. I've had a couple sets. My thought is that the 28ga is so close to the 20ga as to be not worth the bother and certainly would make that wonderful gun handle like Mikes snowshovel. Shoot the gun a lot and enjoy it for what it is
Regards
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Bob, thanks for keeping your sense of humor.
Friend of mine has tremendous success with this load:
Lead Shot 20 3/4 oz. Internat'l Win. 209 WAA20 12gr. 10,100 PSI 1150
In the WWAA hull.
He originally started using it to tame down an Ithaca Classic 20ga. skeet gun, but it's been his standard since.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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Thanks to all. Cooler heads have prevailed.
This gun was a gift from the heavens. A trade where I realistically gave half of this guns' worth in the secondary market, a third of a new CSMC Fox so configured.
I'm a Skeet and Quail guy and will most likely open the chokes to suit my shooting.
S.G.Jones,
I saw that recipe on the Hodgdon site and also found another using 16gr. of Clays and a Remingtom wad for a 3/4 oz., 1150 fps, 6500 psi load.
I'm going to try both! Frequently.
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Bob, Another option, if you're still interested, would be Gauge Mate gold chamber adapters. The gold version stays in the chambers, and uses the ejectors to extract the spent shells. I have the 16-20 version. They pattern very well, and mine only weigh 1.2 ounces for the pair. That weight between the hands will not affect balance of the gun. You can find them and order at www.gaugemate.com. I believe the cost is $169.99 plus shipping. Otherwise, reloading as suggested above is your best option. Good luck and have fun! Tom
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