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The Greener Story is the full history of the company from William Greener onwards. The majority is about W.W.G but it is as good as it gets. Lagopus.....

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Originally Posted By: vtbuck223
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Rarity is not a factor in your not finding much information. Your gun is either fairly well preserved or has been freshened up. Many of the readers on this site own Greeners but mostly breechloaders.


No offense...but you must be referring to WW Greener guns which seem to be plentiful....I challenge you to do a web search right now and tell me how many W.Greener guns you find. If you find a bunch...please let me know where so I can take a look. There are a fair amount of references to William Greener himself and his various methods of gunmaking and inventions...but very few actual guns and images...etc. I do think it is cool that when this gun was made in 1856...it was during this period that he was also making guns for Prince Albert. I can inspect it myself and tell that it is safe to shoot....though I never have....I told you doubleguns just aren't my thing....but, I have thought about it...I may just put a light load through it at some point...It would be cool to take a ruffed grouse with it. Oh well....if nobody wants to trade for it....I don't mind hanging onto it. I have heard that Greeners book is good...but figured that it was mostly his thoughts on gun manufacturing and very little about his guns in general. I've thought about buying "the Greener Story" but I figured it was mostly about WW Greener guns and beyond....which I don't really care about. Thanks for all your comments....if you have any more thoughts please let me know. Even better...if you own a W. Greener...I'd love to see some pics.



Both Greeners' books are excellent. I was especially impressed by the treatment of twist barrel patterns in "Pappy's" book.

By all means, if the gun is safe, shoot it. You might very well find that you will be shooting it a lot. M/l SxSs can be like that. The cross-eyed old gals are addictive! V.M. Starr notes that his "modern guns" got dusty because he only seemed to go out with his "front feeders". The gun seems to be in a fine "user-grade" condition. I suggest that you read Starr's little book, purchase the necessary equipment like new nipples, a nipple wrench, shot and powder containers, and a range rod, along with the necessary ammunitionn components, and then go out and get the gun and yourself smoky and stinky the way God intended. I am convinced that you will be glad that you did.

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Until it comes time to clean it.

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Until it comes time to clean it.


Actually Joe, compared to my 1863 Springfield for instance, where the barrel is firmly bolted to the gun, pulling the barrels off a SXS is simple and makes cleaning them, without messing up the rest of the gun, sooo much easier.
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Most of W. & W.W. Greener's books are now digitized
https://docs.google.com/View?id=dfg2hmx7_308gtmpgfc6

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Originally Posted By: Rockdoc
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Until it comes time to clean it.


Actually Joe, compared to my 1863 Springfield for instance, where the barrel is firmly bolted to the gun, pulling the barrels off a SXS is simple and makes cleaning them, without messing up the rest of the gun, sooo much easier.
Steve


In point of fact, it can take less time to clean a m/l SxS than it does a b/l. Of course, there can be the matter of "the aroma" but that's just part of the charm of the thing...right?

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Originally Posted By: Drew Hause
Most of W. & W.W. Greener's books are now digitized
https://docs.google.com/View?id=dfg2hmx7_308gtmpgfc6


Wonderful sources! Thanks!

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Thanks for the links to those books...I had no idea they were available as such. After taking a quick peak it definitely confirms my belief that W.Greener was a "deep thinker" concerning all things related to gun manufacturing.

As far as the barrels....they are very easily removed...much easier than on my muskets and longrifles...cleanup should be a snap.

If I end up hanging onto this gun...I definitely will "get stinky" as suggested... grin

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Originally Posted By: Rockdoc
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Until it comes time to clean it.


Actually Joe, compared to my 1863 Springfield for instance, where the barrel is firmly bolted to the gun, pulling the barrels off a SXS is simple and makes cleaning them, without messing up the rest of the gun, sooo much easier.
Steve


Actually there's not much you can tell me about cleaning vintage muzzleloading shotguns as I've own and shot and cleaned more than my share and yours.

Once the new wears off they are a pain in the butt to hunt with.

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jOe, I know that you are very experienced with muzzle loaders and I have certainly enjoyed reading and learning from your posts. For me cleanup's not the issue, it's reloading in the field. I use a 12 gauge 1973 Pedersoli occassionaly that at 5.5#'s is great to carry, but because of the PITA reloading I end up choosing my shots more carefully (no "Hail Mary shots"). For me, cleanup after the hunt is nothing.
Steve


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