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Hey guys, i would like to buy a new o/u to replace my superposed and have it narrowed down to 3 guns. A Ceasar Guerini Woodlander, a Silver Pigeon, or a Browning Superlight Feather.
First off, i prefer english stocks (or at least Prince of Wales style)and Schnabel forearm and might save extra for the silver pigeon v which offers the english stock.
These preferences have brought me to the Browning Superlight Feather. The gun fits me nice and is quite a bit cheaper than the other two but im worried about the alloy receiver. Do you think even with the steel pins it would loosen up? I like to shoot skeet and trap everyonce in a while, so the gun would see plenty action besides upland hunting and i dont plan on buying another 12 guage o/u for the remainder of my life.
Also, out of the three shotguns i've mentioned, do you perfer one over the other considering they all fit me well?
Thanks for your time.

Hello
A few questions

1. How old are you?
2. Why replace the Superposed? Stolen?
3. Game or Target as primary use?
4. Any waterfowl hunting in the future?
5. How many rounds per month on the average?

Thanks
Mike

I have no experience with the Guerini, but do with the other two. I favor the Beretta over the Browning. I have seen too many Brownings with steel frames loosen, to the point that they open themselves after the first shot, to ever want to try one of their alloy guns.

I have over 10,000 rounds through my SP II with nary a hiccup. I just don't think there is a better production hunting/clays O/U on the market than the 687 series Berettas.

SRH

I have owned a good handful of Browning Citori based guns (older and 3xx, 4xx, and 5xx series) and find them to be a bit heavy for an upland gun, especially so in 12g. The primary weight seems to be the heavy walled barrels.

I've found that I prefer Beretta barrels now. The 687 Ultra Light Delux would by my pick over the other two in 12ga. It is an aluminum alloy frame but has a titanium insert in the breachface. But, I'd prefer a smaller bore like the 20ga. That might bring the alloy frame Tiempo into the mix.

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2. I find the superposed a little heavy for all day hunting and prefer a slimmer forearm. Also, it doesnt seem to fold pheasants like my other shotguns (probably me).
3. Game
4. No waterfowl with the o/u, im actually shopping for a pump with a 3.5 inch capacity.
5. hmm, in winter not to much, summer and fall 200 a weekend.

Since i have posted this i noticed the Browning only comes in a 26in barrel, kind of like 28s.

HR,
If you're gonna get a waterfowl gun separately, I'd look at a 687 Ultra Light Deluxe in 12g or possibly the Tempio Light in 20ga at about 5 1/2 lbs

Thanks for the recommendation Chuck, i think 20 guage is out, i need all the help i can get killing pheasants up here. I will have to handle that Beretta, i kind of found the grip a little cramped for my hand. Might all be in my head though, i always found the English stock came up faster for me.

Go for the Beretta Gd V Straight

http://www.berettausa.com/products/687-silver-pigeon-v-english-stock/default.aspx

Thanks for answering the questions
Mike

p.s. But Chuck H, this would be my choice
http://www.orvis.com/intro.aspx?dir_id=1089&group_id=25577&cat_id=15480&subject=7873

OF Course WE ALL KNOW the 16 gauge is best !!!

I've been shooting Beretta 686 & 687s for 35+ years
the 6 lb 20 ga is too light for me but that's me

for skeet and sporting clays handload 5/8 to 7/8 oz in 12 ga or at the end of the day you will know it's a 7 lb 12 ga

shoot 1 1/4 oz Federal copper plate #6s for turkey and pheasant

great guns in all regards except rolled engraving
I'm sure the engraving is the cause for most of my missed shots.

Having shot a lot of clays & live birds with LW (alloy) K80 & K32 it seems to me that the alloy guns do exhibit a bit more wear than same steel gun would. That said, I have a SLF 16ga I hunt a lot and also shoot a few pre-season clays. Other than handling marks,it shows no significant signs of wear. The SLF is really too light for serious (100 round +/-) days of clays shooting in any event.