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Originally Posted By: Shotgunjones
... Unless it's a battleship! We have a large supply of battleships. Truely useless since 12-7-41, they attract visitors wherever preserved and displayed.


...and a point driven home on April 7, 1945*.












*On April 7, 1945, Yamato, with 18" guns was sunk by aircraft carrier born airplanes.

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Yes, and Musashi 6 months earlier.

Hey, any historic ship that is preserved is a bonus. It's good that the battleships were saved, I just question the selection process.

The interesting ones were not saved. HMS Warspite, and IJN Nagato for instance.

We do have some very historic Essex class ships on display, and that's a real positive.

But to scrap CV-6 was a national disgrace only exceeded by the two Saturn V's built and not flown.

Buncha nutballs running this country.


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Strange that major liquor companies were shipping olive oil, mushrooms and other weird cargo. J.P. Sauer is shipping 318 bags of potatoes. I wonder if some stretching of the import duty laws was going on?

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...then as now.

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Here's an interesting essay for you on Titanic day.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304444604577337923643095442.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

100 years later, it's the government's fault.

Illustrates how people think about government regulation.

Commenting on how many guns may have been destroyed on Titanic, consider how many fine guns never were... because the prospective customers perished a few years later in France. Another government caused tragedy.


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Originally Posted By: Shotgunjones
We do have some very historic Essex class ships on display, and that's a real positive.


Most of us old Naval Aviators have very fond memories of the Essex Class Carriers which were used heavily in Viet Nam and conflicts prior to that. Most of the 23 built started out as straight deck carriers and were later modified to angle deck carriers. C=Carrier...V=Aviation....A=Attack....S=Anti-Submarine....T=Training....

Only four Essex class warriors still remain,

1. The "Lady Lex" CV-16, later CVT-16, The U.S.S. Lexington (aka-The Blue Ghost) which was used for student pilot carrier training in the Gulf of Mexico beginning in the early 60's up through 1991....many of us, including me, carrier-qualified on the Lexington. She now is at rest and is a museum, open to the public in Corpus Christi, TX. 1943-1991 active duty...1991 to present as a museum.

2. CVA/CVS-10 The U.S.S. Yorktown, 1943-1970 active duty...1974-present a public maritime/naval aircraft museum at Patriot's Point, Mt. Pleasant, South Carolina.

3. CVA/CVS-11 The U.S.S. Intrepid, 1943-1974 active duty....now a public maritime/naval aircraft museum in New York City Harbor. She was docked on the Hudson River side when I used to fly over her.

4. CVA/CVS-12 The U.S.S. Hornet, 1942-1970 active duty, 1998-present a public maritime/naval aircraft museum in Alameda, California.

These proud carriers, all of them wonderful old ladies, served their nation very well and now serve millions of visitors annually. As proud warriors of a free nation, they are very fond memories for thousands of U.S. Naval personnel who served under their flags and carrier battle groups.........I am fortunate enough to have landed aircraft on some of them, sorry that most of them are gone now, but so many great memories are not gone.

May these remaining four continue their glory as museums for all to see.



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I had the pleasure of recommissioning Missouri in 1986. I reported aboard in 1985 and left in 1991. I would have gladly done my entire 20+ years on her. There were quite a few miles left in the old girl, but was not very economical to operate. Right off the top, she consumed 30,000 to 50,000 gallons of MDF each day unerway. I was LPO and Turret Captain of Turret One. Desert Shield and Desert Storm were certainly the highlights of my career.


GMC(SW) - USN, Retired (1978-2001)


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Just watched the Discovery Channel docu-drama on the Titanic...followed up with the Concordia. I think I've sailed my last cruise ship.

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Just watched the Discovery Channel docu-drama on the Titanic...followed up with the Concordia. I think I've sailed my last cruise ship.


The two vacations I hope never to take: 1) a cruise anywhere 2) Las Vegas. The only vacation that would be worse would be a cruise to Las Vegas.

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PA 24. When the Movie came out (The latest with De caprio) I suggested to Mike McIntosh that we try to find out(If we could, as I did not have a computer, If we could find out from my earlier research,who in the 1st Class passengers were Purdey Clients,I had my Years of JP&S Records, I had shared my "Stuff" with Don Dallas when he was writing his PURDEY book, Mike became"Un-well" so I put it all aside.It was quite interesting finding who was a H&H, Boss, Purdey, Clients, then checking the name againt the Passenger/Crew/Etc. Lists I had in my files.I think I gave all my research to a "Young Writer" who was going to"Follow Through". I'm glad there is still some Interest in the OLD Stuff...DT-C/C

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