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Why is it that the drop at the heel of most British hammer guns is so much less than those with internal hammers, particularly those from America?

Maybe they aren't but of the two or three score I have looked at over the last five years or so, it seems to be so.


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Because they fit most people better.

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I don't agree with you about internal vs external hammers and DAH but certainly the difference between Brit and American guns had all to do with style of shooting.
I beleive the subject was well covered recently with an intro. from Dr.Hause. Anyone remember?

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I would guess that many hammerguns were made with driven shooting in mind. Built-in lead helps.

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What Justin said: shooting style and discipline
https://docs.google.com/View?id=dfg2hmx7_322dfv7jpff

Whatever the style, the Colonials did pretty good in the 1901 International Match, which became the Anglo-American match when the previously scheduled Edinburgh, Dublin, and Paris matches were...uh...declined wink
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=185YOyQl7GIB9OYLs9Hr3tnMLHqs4rjEdR4j_E9l4HLw

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You need a little extra starch in your collar to shoot 3 1/2" of drop at the heel smile


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Terry: worked OK for this fella and his Parker smile


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All my doubles have over 3" of drop. If you're shooting " gun down " and stand with the weight equal on both feet you'll have the tenacity to keep your head straigh up. You'll mount the gun to your jaw, not the cheek and you can't lift your head" - it's already up. Put more weight on the front foot and you'll stick your head foreward and mount the gun to your cheek. Now I get to hear from my fellow shooters - " I lifted my head". Easy to fix - bend the stock down about an inch. Try it, you'll see what I'm talking about. The down side is the gun will kick like a mule unless light loads are used. It's not recoiling straight back. I was shooting 7/8oz loads and have gone to 3/4oz [ in 12ga] and haven't noticed a difference. I believe the patterns have tightened up because less shot is deformed. Still shoot in the high 20's in skeet, low 20's on 5-stand, and low 40's/50 in SC's.Just my take on it. Paul

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Different countries different styles. Ever shouldered an older German/Austrian scoped rifle? It's hard to remain in contact with the stock the scopes are so high. My instructors always hammered to us, (literally smacking my head sometimes the Marine Corps way), cheekweld, cheekweld, cheekweld. Now I can't shoot comfortably at all without low low scopes or iron sights on rifles and 2 1/4" drop at heel for the shotguns please.


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