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growing up in the 40s and 50s the 16 guage sxs was the gun to have especially by fox, parker, smith etc. has the 16 gained any popularity with sportsmen in the recent years?
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I don't think so. I think the ballistics are fine but my only problem with them is the reloading options are so limited.
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Donno if it's gained popularity or not, since I don't know what your beginning level of popularity might be. It's far and away my favorite gauge for upland hunting. I have more 16's than anything else. I seem to be able to load whatever I am looking for in a 16, so I don't feel limited in loading at all. Love the 16's.
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From a sales point of view, they have become far easier to sell in the last ten years and are now quite sought after. Nobody loads in the UK and available ammo is good. A nice way to build a gun light and strong that can handle an ounce perfectly.
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I have L.C. Smith 16 ga. from hammer gun to Specialty Grade and like them all. Really fond of the hammer gun/s.
Since all of my 16's are 2 9/16" chamber, I roll crimp them using either the one in the drill press or the old fashioned hand crank one. Frankly, the hand crank one is faster.
A friend found a recipe using RST 16's, 2 1/2" hulls using the same wad I use for roll crimping, Ballistics Products SP16 and fold crimping them. Might have to try that.
If you join the 16 ga. Society and 16 ga. Reloaders site for a one time fee of $40.00, there are more 16 ga loads than you could ever shoot.
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I think the question is similar to: "Has the .264 Winchester Magnum gained popularity in recent years?"
Being that I'm really enthusiastic about the .264 Win Mag, I'd like to think so. Have been for over 3 decades. But in reality, my guess is the .264 popularity continues to wane, especially if you compare it in terms of percentage of all calibers sold in the U.S.. I think the 16ga is on a parallel path in the U.S.. There'll always be a small segment of the shooters that will follow these cartridges. But some sort of big resurgence? I don't think so.
Last edited by Chuck H; 06/26/12 05:40 PM.
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16s are very rare on the clay target venues these days, and if you like modern O/Us, you don't have a lot of choices in 16 ga. (Browning, Rizzini), and not all are built on scaled frames.
I am waiting for a Sterly 16 to come back from the stocker and can't wait to get it in the field. A 6-lb. 16 ga. on a svelte 20 ga. frame is an ideal field gun, IMHO. Some of the Spanish makers will build a gun on that configuration if asked.
If Beretta ever offered a 16 ga. on their 20 ga. 687 frame, I bet they would sell really well.
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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Sure seems like it when you try to buy one used!
Last edited by Fin2Feather; 06/26/12 10:44 PM.
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Generally, 16 gauge repeaters are a drug on the market because they are usually built on a 12 gauge frame so as the repeater gained ascendency in the shotgun market the 16 gauge waned.
Regarding side by sides, 20 years ago the resale price of a 16 was lowest for a given gun between 12 and 410. Today that is no longer true. As an example a 16 gauge model 21 Winchester will bring more $$ than a 12, all other aspects being equal. The 16s with chambers shorter than 2.75" though might not be as popular in the US because we can't get shells as easily as in the UK and Europe.
My absolute favorite upland bird gun is a 16 gauge German piece with 2.75" chambers.
RB
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I think the few recent models mass produced where on 12 gauge frames and most everyone yawned. No one really wants a 16 gauge that weighs as much as 12 gauge. Defeats the entire purpose of having a 16 gauge in the first place. I think if Remington came out with a model 870 on a 20 gauge frame with choke tubes, newbies would like it. However, real McCoy in my opinion would be for browning to make their Citori 16 gauges on a 20 gauge Citori frame. That would make some folks pay attention I'm thinking. For me personally, the real deal would be a stateside maker come out with a 16 gauge on a 20 gauge frame. Can you imagine how many Rugers sxs would have been made if they had only come out with both a 16 and a 20 gauge sxs using the same 20 gauge frame. They would have sold a ton if their quality control was where it needed to be.
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