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Grouse shooting in the British Isles normally opens on the 12 of August,this year it will likely be delayed until the 13th because as I recall game shooting is not allowed on Sundays in most parts of the British Isles!
As a boy I vividly remember being on Euston Station on or about this date,in the late 1940,s and seeing trolley loads of cased guns being loaded onto overnight L.M.S. trains destined for Scotland.
In those days by some miracle,Grouse was being served for lunch in London restaurants by mid day on the 12th!
So bearing in mind the wet spring and summer during 2012. What is the current outlook for Grouse shooting in 2012 and what are the prospects for finding grouse on London lunch menues on the 13th?

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from everything I have read in the UK sporting press, it looks like a good year is expected.

the last few have been a dramatic improvement on the lows of just 5 or 6 years ago

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Not to begrudge our British brothers in arms, but why oh why, Lord, can't that be our story here in New England?

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What percentage of the grouse shot in the British Isles these days are wild? I got the impression from reading "A Shooting Man's Creed" by Sir Joseph Nickerson, that they are almost all pen raised now. Maybe I'm thinking about the pheasants?

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Stan,

I think your'e thinking about pheasant. Red Grouse, just like our Ruffed Grouse or Ptarmigan, are COMPLETELY wild birds.

On the pheasant and partridge drives, however, you'll find mostly reared game.

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hello stan,
i have not read "shooting mans creed" but if it says grouse in the uk are pen reared it is 100 % wrong! grouse are wild birds and none are reared in captivity for shooting.to rear grouse in that manner(if indeed possible) is a ridiculous suggestion,in my opinion.
the forecast in south scotland is for a fair year and i shall be on the moor tomorrow,for a walked up day.
shooting game on a sunday is not illegal in scotland,but tradition has always been to honour the sabbath and thankfully is still upheld.
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Good hunting to those going out tomorrow. Share some stories and pictures if you can.

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Originally Posted By: Krakow Kid
Not to begrudge our British brothers in arms, but why oh why, Lord, can't that be our story here in New England?


habitat - although it is a different environment the grouse moors have returned to burning the heather ( think of the old burnings for quail down south) while clear cutting few acres of mature timber here will have the "environmentalist" on you in a New Yawk minute.

Also, there has been serious efforts to severely reduce the parsite carried by sheep and red deer that has plauged the red grouse.

there would never be the numbers of Ruffed Grouse that there are of Red Grouse in Scotland

but in either case, habitat and predation take their tool, more habitat + less predation = more grouse.

only in the Highlands could this be no birds to be found, we saw only about a hundred that day.


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Thanks for the clarification. Maybe he was talking about the grey partridge, or maybe my "rememberer" just ain't working well!

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Sir Joseph Nickerson's book covers the importance of a well managed heather moorland with proper habitat management practices to establish and/or maintain a strong wild grouse population. As I recall he highlights the challenges facing the management of the bird.

The confusion might be the book also covers shooting the reared pheasant. As I recall he also enjoyed wild grey partridge shooting.

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