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Originally Posted By: vangulil
I would not envision water fowl, deer, or self-defense use if I were restricted to a single shotgun.


If we live in the US, and are on a website dedicated to fine guns, and the use of same, and pondering which would be the one we would keep, if limited to just one, It is safe to assume the “envisioning” is being done by others.

People in other countries have been through very similar situations.

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Originally Posted By: vangulil
I would not envision water fowl, deer, or self-defense use if I were restricted to a single shotgun.


If we live in the US, and are on a website dedicated to fine guns, and the use of same, and pondering which would be the one we would keep, if limited to just one, It is safe to assume the “envisioning” is being done by others.

People in other countries have been through very similar situations.

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Ted


I should explain.

I don't plan to hunt waterfowl, but could use the Perazzi, except for long range pass shooting. With only one shotgun, I would use rifles and handguns for deer and self-defense.

If I could not own rifles or handguns, but only a single shotgun, I would choose a 12 ga pump, with a short cylinder bore barrel with rifle sights for deer and self defense, and one or more longer barrels with choke tubes for all other uses.

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I am optimistic, but wary, that we won’t face that choice in this lifetime. I had an email conversation with a Swede, who was trying to figure out which gun he could get rid of to get another gun for his own use. He was limited to five, if I am not mistaken. Granted, I do the same thing, myself, but, there is no government agency telling me to do it, and inspecting if I actually have, and I prefer it that way.

The Swede would, as well, I’m sure.

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On any given day, with one shell, 1 3/8 ounce lead or substitute load at about 1200 fps, at any range, 20 yards to 50 yards, pheasant, chukar, duck or goose, I would choose my SC Parker single trap Cutts gun to kill that bird. Different bird, different range, different shell, different number of shells, I may choose some other gun.

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OK-- I'd stay with my M12- 30" full solid rib full choke. To each his own, as they say. I once shared a 2-place duck blind with a neighbor who had a Rem M11- 12 gauge "Sportsman" series with a factory installed Cutts- don't know what choke tube he had in that morning- circa 1992-93- but boy howdy did my ears ring from the sideblast of that "pickle with vents"--

Any chance you'd consider posting a photo of that SC Parker SBT with the Cutts-? don't see those everyday-- RWTF


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Originally Posted By: eightbore
On any given day, with one shell, 1 3/8 ounce lead or substitute load at about 1200 fps, at any range, 20 yards to 50 yards, pheasant, chukar, duck or goose, I would choose my SC Parker single trap Cutts gun to kill that bird. Different bird, different range, different shell, different number of shells, I may choose some other gun.
I certainly hope you bought the Parker trap gun cheap if it has a Cutts affixed to the end of it. grin


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I had a vented Cutts on my first repeater, a 20 gauge Remington model 17. I killed birds and clay pigeons fair enough with that old gun, but, as soon as I had $100, I sent the gun to Stan Baker, and he amputated the thing, shortened the barrel, adjusted the POI, backbored and polished the barrel, and installed and supplied two choke tubes, about IC and MOD.

I’d do it all over again today, except Skeets would do the work I suppose, since Stan is no longer with us.

I hated the noise that thing made.

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Buzz, the Cutts barrel was purchased for very short money and happened to be a perfect fit on one of my Parker singles. 30" overall with the full choke tube, same as the original barrel. I have used Cutts Model 12s and 1100s in NSSA competition for many years and will continue. My Cutts Model 42s are among my favorite shooting guns. Wayne Mayes was once asked if the noise of the Cutts bothered him. He replied, "It doesn't bother me, but it drives my shootoff competition crazy." Great thread.

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I would like a J. Graham 12ga, 28” mod/full, preferably a BLE, with a straight stock to a checkered butt and 15” LOP.

If one of those isn’t available, some other nice Scottish gun with those specs would be fine as well.

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I settled on the 16ga double many years ago so no issue there. I find myself shooting a 70 year old H&H Royal 16 more often then not in recent years so that would be a natural answer to only one gun. Hard to complain about that option.

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