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This is a Model number suffix that follows some Beretta Model 409s and 309s - such as Model 409 bis. It was typically the lowest price gun in a series. Does anyone know what the letters "bis" stand for? (likely something in Italian)

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That is in italian - in English it translates to P.O S! smile

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Small Bore...drop just a few more bread crumbs if you would :-) thanks, Jim

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I think in Italian it means 'additional' such as a more deluxe version of a particular model. Such as gold plating, etc.


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BIS is Latin. It usually means "twice" but can also have other meanings in Latin. In Italian it translates to "due volte", twice.

It is common to apply it to a model that is a step up in Italian. It is also a way of a saying it is between two existing things.

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pete...does your wisdom know no bounds?? thanks much, Jim

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Also seen in French, and means the same thing.

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BI is twice in Latin and the S must mean barrels

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From Cassell's Latin Dictionary

bis, adv. twice, in two ways; bisterque, Cic.; bis t'Tvo, Cic.; twice or thrice; bis die, Cic. ; bis consul, a man who has been consul twice (iternm consul, a man who is consul for the second time), Cic.; bis tanto or tantum, twice as great, Plaut.; with distributive numerals, bis bina, Cic.; with cardinal numerals, only in poet., bis quinque viri

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The terms 'bis' and 'ter' are used, particularly in Europe and particularly in formal documents, to mean 'second' and 'third' .

In addition, if an extra item has to be added to a numbered list, e.g. between existing items 15 and 16, the new item would be called 15bis. Again, this is for use in formal documents e.g. law texts.

Nigel.

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