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PhysDoc,
Thanks for the additional information on your Niedner rifle. I was just curious as to the rate of twist, whether 1-10 or 1-12 inches.
Thanks again for posting the photographs of Dan's rifle
Thanks, and best regards,
Rick
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As you probably know, Ben Comfort won the 1935 Wimbledon Cup at Camp Perry, shoooting a .300 H&H target rifle made for him on a M1917 Enfield action by Griffin & Howe. http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/2009/09/history-ben-comfort-1935-wimbledon-cup.htmlThis caused a sensation in the long range (1000 yard) shooting community and a sudden increase in interest for what had been until then a rather obscure cartridge. Your Niedner looks really fine. I assume it is a single shot and that in place of a magazine there is a trough to facilitate loading. Pictures of the action with the bolt open would be nice, as well as the underside of the stock. Congratulations on a great find. This doesn't hold a candle to your Niedner, but this is my Dubiel heavy barrelled Springfield target rifle, made in imitation of the Springfield Model T or Special Target rifles, in caliber .30-'06:   I saw this on gunbroker today, a rifle that Ben Comfort may have used at Wimbleton G&H 300 H&H
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I hadn't thought about that rifle that Boats and I discussed earlier, but I'm thinking about it now. He described it as the finest rifle he had ever seen. He may be right. The Comfort rifle is expensive, but someone may pay the price, not me.
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Gary D.   xausa,
Nice Dubiel, how is it marked and does it have a number with the name?
I don't know how I overlooked this question from Michael, but the answer is that the barrel is marked "30-06 Dubiel Arms Co. No. 734." The action is Springfield Armory number 1248887 and it is fitted with a Lyman 48 rear sight without the hinged aperture insert. The front sight is a Lyman 17, the kind with a dovetail made to fit the issue Springfield front sight base. It is mounted on an integral ramp with a dovetail cut which just fits the sight. The action is fitted with a custom trigger marked "EADS MFG. CO." and a headless cocking piece. Whoever has Michael's records might be able to use this information
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Thanks for your diligence, Gary. Your google-fu skills exceed mine. Yes, I'm the proud caretaker of this Dubiel rifle now. It pleases me to know that it passed through Bill's hands at one time. I bought it from the viewpoint of it being a nifty pre-war target rifle, without remembering it from this old thread.
I have installed a Fecker scope on it and plan to give it a whirl this weekend if the weather holds. Fred- this is the gun you provided the Lyman 48 slide blank for last week. I'm a cast bullet enthusiast, so the Dubiel may well only ever see cast bullets used in it from here on out. (As nice as the bore is, I have high hopes for it in that regard.)
Last edited by Gary D.; 12/17/19 07:12 PM.
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I am trying to educate myself about a Niedner rifle that belonged to my Grandfather. He has been gone since 1980, but his Niedner remains in the family. He was a world class collector, and an expert marksman. He did shoot at Camp Perry, and was well known in his day. I have tried to search online, but this rifle has what I think is called a rolling block action, and all I can find are bolt actions. Help, please. What kind of identifying marks can I look for? The top of the barrel is stamped with Niedner Rifle Corp, Dowagiac, MICH.
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If its a Rolling Block rifle, remove the forearm and look for a barrel number and/or initials on the bottom of the barrel.
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A couple pictures would really really help.
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Bottom of the barrel has 808. Also, on the front of the receiver, under the forearm has 5 88. I will try to post some pictures. Thank you both for responding.
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How can I get pictures posted here?
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