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My 1934 Vintage Skeet-Trap M 21 is getting off face. Have any of you had experiece with this?. Is it usually the hook or the pin that is worn on a 21?
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Contact Connecticut Shotgun for Model 21 repair.They will fix it correctly. Phone (860)225-6581
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usually a new locking bolt from Galazan will get the job done. I have had to make a new pin too, but that was an extreme case.
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Stallones if it is off face it is the pin.
If it is loose it is the bolt. The Model 21 has an adjustable bolt. There is a screw between the two chambers. If you turn that screw clockwise it lets the bolt come out further.
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Mike
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To test which problem you have, fabricate a spacer to go in the bottom of the lug slot. If the spacer makes the gun tight, you may want to get a new bolt. If it does not make it tight, fabricate a spacer for the loop. If that makes it tight, you may need a new pin or a more permanent spacer. If you don't want to do these things, send it to Tony. He will do a good job, permanently. Your gun must have had an interesting life. I have not yet had a loose 21. To answer your original question, I would suspect thay made the pin harder than the hook, but the pin is easier to replace for adjustment. Bill Murphy
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Galazan will install a new hinge pin for $375 and a new locking bolt for $225. Your 21 will open and close like a new gun when this is done. Talk to Lou. http://connecticutshotgun.com/model21a.htmlI've had this done on 3 21's and their work is very good. Gary
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My gunsmith put an oversized hinge pin in a 16ga 21 for me that was off face. I'm pretty sure the problem was from hook wear. Replacing the hinge pin isn't a big deal on a 21 according to my smith. The whole cost wasn't very much and I think he bought the hinge pin from Galazan. Maybe $100 a few yrs ago. The hinge pins on these guns aren't usually elaborately engraved like English guns and it's no big deal to replace as long as you have a good gunsmith who knows what he's doing. In this regard, I have NO idea why it is such a huge deal on these English guns, other than the engraving, and why it seems to cost an arm and a leg??
Socialism is almost the worst.
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Call England and order a hinge pin.
Tell us how that goes.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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Maybe Buzz is Homeless Joes sibling??
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Maybe Buzz is Homeless Joes sibling?? Well, maybe so and if I am then Mr Shotgun Jones is clearly Dr WTS' sibling! 2 peas in a pod, for sure.
Socialism is almost the worst.
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